Mic09 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: His stock will literally never be higher. He’s genuinely rated as one of the best keepers in the world right now. If we’re selling we should be looking for a world record fee for a keeper I'd take 80mil. But would rather Martinez stay. 100mil and I'll drive him to his destination myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Hilariously, having double checked, Dermot Gallagher said McGinn's goal was offside. Corruption. No other word. Complete Representative for Wellingborough 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 54 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Also, advertising the fact is also mental. Don't let clubs know that we want to sell him. Too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I'm not so sure Emi is nailed on to leave this summer. If a huge offer comes in I guess it would be tempting but sure the owners and Unai would want to keep hold of him if at all possible. There aren't many clubs who could splash 60m plus on a keeper? Also I see there are some quotes about Emi's representatives today not sure what to make of that! Could be BS to start stirring things up. Personally want him to stay and think recent criticism of him from some is very OTT. He's a great keeper and character to have at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_a Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 20/02/2023 at 13:27, Rolta said: How have they dropped off? Before the last three games, where I can honestly blame him only for the corner goal, and when we played the two best teams back to back, he won us games making worldies...and people were saying he was back to form. I think his mentality has changed since Cutler left, and that has affected his decision making. Cutler left in Oct-22. His goals against per minute is terrible compared to when he joined. Obviously i see that the whole defence is responsible for Goals Against, but numbers is numbers. To be honest, with those stats, I'd be looking to replace him anyway. (Stats from FBRef). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 still got good length on contract so should get top price and if those stats carry on the way they are he wont be in champions league team to long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mister_a said: I think his mentality has changed since Cutler left, and that has affected his decision making. Cutler left in Oct-22. His goals against per minute is terrible compared to when he joined. Obviously i see that the whole defence is responsible for Goals Against, but numbers is numbers. To be honest, with those stats, I'd be looking to replace him anyway. (Stats from FBRef). Fbref has much better stats for goalkeepers you can use. The picture they paint is that he was genuinely world class in 20/21, but was only average in 21/22. Even this season his stats are only decent. I know we all love Emi but lets be honest, despite his international exploits, he hasn’t been an elite keeper in the league for a long while. He’s merely been alright. Not irreplaceable. Edited February 21, 2023 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) Sell. No other keeper in the world will fetch more than him now, the cost/benefit here is huge. Shame we dont have a decent #2 What was attractive about him was his loyalty shown for believing in him when he was bought and made our #1, however there is a whiff of billy-big-bollocks about it now, and he really hasnt been at his best at club level since his first season with us. Edited February 21, 2023 by thunderball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Just seen a clip of him come out where he speaks about loving the club and us giving him everything etc. Welcome damage control and assurances to fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevo985 said: That story is mental to me. Firstly, I don't think we should be looking to sell him. I've said before that selling him is certainly an option. I think it's very possible he'll want to leave and his stock will never be higher so it would be good business to listen to offers as the fee would be astronomical. But I don't think we should be openly looking to sell him. Also, advertising the fact is also mental. Don't let clubs know that we want to sell him. Yeah you don’t normally go openly announcing something like that for a player with such a high asset value, especially for a club that doesn’t need to sell like us. It strikes me as if something serious has gone on behind the scene with him to the point where we must either really want to sell him or we must really think we can’t keep him beyond the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Don't want to have to start the season with a new keeper, but I reckon this is an opportunity NSWE will take, they always said they wanted to run the club in a self sustaining way - Emi will be good money, at the right time for the player to move. Pity, but understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I’m in two minds about this - loadsa money or we keep him and a huge personality and a player with an elite level mentality (although his performances have been a bit below his usual levels). If we can replicate his mentality with a replacement then it makes sense but it’s a huge risk to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Jareth said: Well, if Tom Collomosse and the Daily Mail says so.... Do we really need to sell to buy this summer? Looks to me like this is a rehash of the Emi would like to play for a Champions League club story. The press just hate the fact that we have a World Cup winner in our team and think that we are still a selling club. I think that we would be mugs to sell, at the sort of price we would be likely to be offered. If he insists on leaving in the summer then that changes things, but I can't see him not giving us another season. Imagine the price we would be asked for another keeper after selling Emi too, there wouldn't be a lot left for any other rebuilding. He's a player we should be building the team around, rather than looking to sell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Selling a keeper for big money then trying to replace one is going to be difficult. Chelsea and selling Courtois and then having to meet the massive release clause of Kepa spring to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 3 hours ago, PussEKatt said: If those 2 players are blocking/partially blocking his sight,the they are interfearing with play. If I were writing the laws, I would say that you are automatically participating in/interfering with the play if you are in the 18 yard box. If you're that close, the defence and the GK have to take you into account. In my mind, the whole point of the interference rule is for counter-attacks in the open field; in that case, you shouldn't have offside if the a through ball is played on the left and the attacker on the right is a half-step offside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, John said: Well, if Tom Collomosse and the Daily Mail says so.... Do we really need to sell to buy this summer? Looks to me like this is a rehash of the Emi would like to play for a Champions League club story. The press just hate the fact that we have a World Cup winner in our team and think that we are still a selling club. I think that we would be mugs to sell, at the sort of price we would be likely to be offered. If he insists on leaving in the summer then that changes things, but I can't see him not giving us another season. Imagine the price we would be asked for another keeper after selling Emi too, there wouldn't be a lot left for any other rebuilding. He's a player we should be building the team around, rather than looking to sell. Hmmmmmm. Is there any talk, other than the fans, that say we will be building big? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TomC said: If I were writing the laws, I would say that you are automatically participating in/interfering with the play if you are in the 18 yard box. If you're that close, the defence and the GK have to take you into account. In my mind, the whole point of the interference rule is for counter-attacks in the open field; in that case, you shouldn't have offside if the a through ball is played on the left and the attacker on the right is a half-step offside. Its hard to prove being unsighted....this plays nicely in to the hands of the Referee's discretion....it's just a shame 2 of them see it different, when both teams are playing each other. Martinez obviously has X-Ray vision, and Leno has not. Edited February 21, 2023 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 It all depends on the player IMO. He's at a higher level individually than we are as a club (at the very worst he's top 5 keepers in the world right now, while we're not even in Europe), so he may well want to chase the CL dream. If he does, then we should cash in on him and get as much money as possible, if he wants to stay, then we'd be mad to sell him as his replacement will almost certainly not be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, beachboys1 said: still got good length 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) David Raya has 1 year left on his contract. We can be very smart about this if we have genuine interest in Martinez. We can bank a big profit and choose to have that in this year or next years accounts. Who would buy Emi though? Chelsea, he wouldn't join Spurs would he. United will stick with De Gea. Nobody else in market for one who could pay 60m+ Edited February 21, 2023 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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