gurru991 Posted December 19, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tom13 said: You are right. The refs should take more control. For example, they should be the ones holding the ball and giving it to the taker. Any messing around from the keeper, book them, they won't continue doing it then will they. The players will do whatever they can to win but it is up to the governing bodies to install the rules and ensure that they are enforced. What is allowed changes from league to league let alone countries and tournaments 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tom13 said: You are right. The refs should take more control. For example, they should be the ones holding the ball and giving it to the taker. Any messing around from the keeper, book them, they won't continue doing it then will they. If Martinez won us a final and behaved like that would you be annoyed? I don’t care how he behaves when you’ve players like pogba, Bruno fernandes etc doing silly run ups to the ball. Keepers are at a huge disadvantage now imo and mind games are the only control they have over the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Simon Jordan, love him or hate him, speaks sense 99% of the time, so thank you. 99% of the time? That’s awfully generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Aston_Villan4 said: 99% of the time? That’s awfully generous. Maybe. He speaks a lot of sense though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: Maybe. He speaks a lot of sense though. He has his moments, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: ITT I learn @Tom13 is Simon Jordan “Martinez’s actions, I thought it was cheating, the holding of the ball and throwing it the other way,” he told talkSPORT. “The goalkeeper’s actions, I don’t think it was gamesmanship, I don’t think it’s part of the game, I think it’s cheating. He later added: “For a referee to allow the goalkeeper to manipulate the circumstances, to heighten the pressure, to increase it, I think was one of the shortcomings in that moment in time.” https://talksport.com/football/1281407/ Absolute rubbish. But the player taking the penalty can run up and stop and put the ball the other way from which the keeper has committed to, that's fine. He rolled the ball about 8 yards to the side. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Blame the ref for not clamping down, Emi is fully entitled to do that. Players find all kinds of dirty tricks to get advantages during penalties (E.g. the stupid stop and start technique). People are getting mad because it’s Argentina. I’m sure if Lloris did it, blowhards like Simon Jordan would have less to say about it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 6 hours ago, TheStagMan said: Jesus Christ, All these people saying he will leave now. What has he ever said or done that has indicated that he is unhappy at Villa? Nothing that's what, he loves Villa and is happy here. Get a grip people. I hear you but, he's won everything at international level now. Maybe, he will now get a hunger for trophies at club level. If he feels Villa aren't close to that he may take that big move if he thinks he is going to a club that can pretty much guarantee those trophies. But, I do agree with you that he has never shown any desire to leave Villa and he does genuinely seem grateful to the club for resurrecting his career and love of the game. The good thing is, if he does leave, it will be for a load more money than we paid for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: Blame the ref for not clamping down, Emi is fully entitled to do that. Players find all kinds of dirty tricks to get advantages during penalties (E.g. the stupid stop and start technique). People are getting mad because it’s Argentina. I’m sure if Lloris did it, blowhards like Simon Jordan would have less to say about it. Lloris wouldn't do it though, would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 If the difference between your country winning and not winning the World Cup is to throw the ball away before the opponent takes the penalty, you can bet every single keeper in the world would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: Blame the ref for not clamping down, Emi is fully entitled to do that. Players find all kinds of dirty tricks to get advantages during penalties (E.g. the stupid stop and start technique). People are getting mad because it’s Argentina. I’m sure if Lloris did it, blowhards like Simon Jordan would have less to say about it. Or Pickford, he'd be getting labeled a national hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Lloris wouldn't do it though, would he? That’s on him, and I know who I’m choosing to stand between the nets in a shootout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The_Steve Posted December 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2022 The English media are a bunch of bedwetters like how they lost their minds when Penaldo winked after getting Rooney sent off. The spirit of the game will only stretch as far as it serves - just wait until Kane dives for his next penalty. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DJBOB Posted December 19, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2022 It's your keeper's responsibility to grab the ball so that keepers like Martinez can't do what he does to get into their head. If you're being put off by Martinez rolling the ball away and forcing you to come get it, then job done. Emi isn't rolling it behind the net and forcing the players to go get it. All very clutch your pearls when they're relatively silent for the numerous penalties that Sterling has dived for. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Blame the ref for not clamping down, Emi is fully entitled to do that. Players find all kinds of dirty tricks to get advantages during penalties (E.g. the stupid stop and start technique). People are getting mad because it’s Argentina. I’m sure if Lloris did it, blowhards like Simon Jordan would have less to say about it. Agreed, if it’s cheating for Emi to play mind games then it should be considered cheating for a player stopping his motion to deceive the goalkeeper during his kick. Also, Emi did get a yellow for his antics during the penalty shootout. So it’s not like they went unpunished. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted December 19, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2022 Italian media making a big deal out of his phallic trophy moment. Wonder if that's the same elsewhere in Europe. In Naples at least he will be a legend for a very long time, Argentina victory celebrated all night down there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Somebody please tell me which rule of the game was broken yesterday for Emi to have ‘cheated’? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: That’s on him, and I know who I’m choosing to stand between the nets in a shootout. What do you think of Bruno Fernandes when he's up to his antics? Get behind it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: What do you think of Bruno Fernandes when he's up to his antics? Get behind it? I'm sure the United fans do though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Tom13 said: What do you think of Bruno Fernandes when he's up to his antics? Get behind it? Out of interest mate. Did you have this much dislike for Grealish’s antics when he was at Villa? Edited December 19, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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