Vive_La_Villa Posted Wednesday at 16:25 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:25 70% of revenue ! The days of a super league are coming closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Wednesday at 16:40 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:40 1 hour ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: We know that as we can include last three seasons of player sales in our income for the calculation. So that will include Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted Wednesday at 16:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:53 Does John Townley work in our accounts department?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted Wednesday at 18:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:07 1 hour ago, MapleVilla said: Does John Townley work in our accounts department?! His knowledge of the topic (psr, ffp etc) appears to be very limited everytime I listen to him. I wouldn't pay much attention to what he writes/says about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted Wednesday at 18:24 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:24 (edited) I’m sure he’s been briefed by the club on this one also feel if we were close to falling foul we wouldn’t have invested £37.5mill on a left back … Edited Wednesday at 18:36 by thabucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted Wednesday at 19:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:04 4 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Random thought I had - shouldn’t the 70%/80% Squad Cost only count players submitted in the squad for Europe? So we could keep some players just for the Premier League and not have them count towards the UEFA Squad Cost… and vice versa for the PL Squad Cost as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted Wednesday at 20:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:31 Can sell on clauses (such as Doug’s) be amortised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted Wednesday at 20:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:43 12 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Can sell on clauses (such as Doug’s) be amortised? Doubt it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Wednesday at 20:59 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:59 (edited) 29 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Can sell on clauses (such as Doug’s) be amortised? There was no sell on clause for Doug. Not a single real media outlet has reported it. Edited Wednesday at 21:01 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted Wednesday at 21:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:03 What about add-ons? Do they get amortised at the start of the contract or just counted at the point they are paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Wednesday at 21:03 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:03 8 hours ago, The_Steve said: City did have a 20% sell on clause for Dougie (£8.5m) 3000 followers and what is Manchester world. Athletic and Fabrizio have reported previous amounts City made from sell in clauses and neither reported or mentioned anything for Doug. As such it didn't exist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Wednesday at 21:04 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:04 Just now, ender4 said: What about add-ons? Do they get amortised at the start of the contract or just counted at the point they are paid? Paid and accounted at point they are triggered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted Thursday at 08:54 Share Posted Thursday at 08:54 sell on clause or not, it really shows the impact of PSR and our desperation to comply. Did anyone think Luiz would be moving for c40m? This has really surprised me tbh, i had assumed we would see some level of competition for his signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted Thursday at 12:09 Share Posted Thursday at 12:09 On 01/07/2024 at 16:35, Czarnikjak said: You were right, as of 25/26 Premier League is also set to switch to cost control rules very similar to uefa (with main difference being 85% ratio for clubs that don't qualify for Europe). And I "think" (might be wrong on this) they will use a season and not a calendar year for their calculations. BTW, the uefa rules where they look at calendar year and not at accounting period, will make it for us mortals almost impossible to predict what are situation will be. (At least I'm giving up on this, I'll let @CVByrne have a go at this ) This is also why things being kicked further down the road presumably won’t be a problem - obviously still rules to comply with, but the different calculations mean that the little ‘insider trading’ we have seen between 5/6 clubs can just be a one-off this year. Might still make sense in the new structure as well but then you’re looking at a different calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted Thursday at 12:10 Share Posted Thursday at 12:10 23 hours ago, The_Steve said: City did have a 20% sell on clause for Dougie (£8.5m) I don’t believe this is the case, unless Michael Plant has a real scoop here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted Thursday at 12:11 Share Posted Thursday at 12:11 19 hours ago, Demitri_C said: 80% of their revenue that makes it even tougher the next few seasonS for us ffs To be fair at least it comes in when we will have had the previous season in the CL. We couldn’t ask for better timing from that perspective… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted Thursday at 12:22 Share Posted Thursday at 12:22 10 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: To be fair at least it comes in when we will have had the previous season in the CL. We couldn’t ask for better timing from that perspective… Thats a very good point If we can get past group stage the money would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted Thursday at 12:26 Share Posted Thursday at 12:26 15 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: I don’t believe this is the case, unless Michael Plant has a real scoop here. Did some further digging, the clause is real as Ornstein confirmed it back in 2022. However, the source of 20% only comes from City sources. The sell-on certainly did influence the final price though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted Thursday at 16:43 Share Posted Thursday at 16:43 Makes sense. They had a buy back incase they wanted to buy him back (hopefully cheaper than his worth if it shot up more than the amount he was worth at the time). They also get some income when we sell him on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted Thursday at 18:32 Share Posted Thursday at 18:32 6 hours ago, The_Steve said: Did some further digging, the clause is real as Ornstein confirmed it back in 2022. However, the source of 20% only comes from City sources. The sell-on certainly did influence the final price though. I think it might have been removed when he signed a new contract because if it existed Ornstein and the Athletic would have reported it when he was sold last week. The fact nobody at all is mentioning it makes me think it's gone, possibly had a time limit of 4 years (which was his contract length) or we paid City to remove it when we signed Luiz to a new deal or.. it simply never existed at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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