villarule123 Posted Sunday at 13:28 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 13:28 If the above is true then I worry that this could be our last season with Emery in charge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted Sunday at 13:30 Share Posted Sunday at 13:30 4 minutes ago, MrBlack said: I know you used Swiss rambles numbers so not digging at you, but... If we assume their expenses where way overestimated. By at least 15m...we can take that off theirs and your projections, and we're left needing £63m. Obviously still a large chunk, but that seems much more achievable without having to cripple us. Yes, although all i am gonna say is that the actual numbers published are always worse than any of us projects here (including me). Nobody here have projected we will only break even in the season when we sold Grealish. Nobody here projected we gonna loose £120m last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted Sunday at 13:32 Share Posted Sunday at 13:32 If we have to sell nearly £100m worth of players next summer then I will eat every single one of your asses. Absolutely no chance. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted Sunday at 13:34 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 13:34 2 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If we have to sell nearly £100m worth of players next summer then I will eat every single one of your asses. Absolutely no chance. That's why I made the comment above. It would ruin us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Follyfoot Posted Sunday at 13:34 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 13:34 2 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: If we have to sell nearly £100m worth of players next summer then I will eat every single one of your asses. Absolutely no chance. PM 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted Sunday at 13:35 Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 13:35 Just now, Follyfoot said: PM Yeah or morning, whichever you prefer. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maltesemike Posted Sunday at 13:37 Share Posted Sunday at 13:37 If this is true, I hope that Nassef manages to sue the premier league for this. It would be demoralising to sell more star players after our hard earned achievements. It’s a rigged system and it appears to be taking fruition. So unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted Sunday at 13:54 Share Posted Sunday at 13:54 16 minutes ago, maltesemike said: If this is true, I hope that Nassef manages to sue the premier league for this. It would be demoralising to sell more star players after our hard earned achievements. It’s a rigged system and it appears to be taking fruition. So unfair. Ratcliffe also believes the system to be unfair. He thinks they should be given all the money and Villa capped with spending no money every year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted Sunday at 14:44 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 14:44 We need to build a hotel quick sharp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted Sunday at 14:54 Share Posted Sunday at 14:54 We're selling one of our biggest assets and influential players in all aspects for 40m. If people don't think we're getting desperate they are purposely being naive. Of course if Emery smashes it next season again and gets top 4 then happy days but an understandable drop off and things could get very messy indeed especially when we've done a Martin O'Neil and given Emery free reign to run the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted Sunday at 15:01 Share Posted Sunday at 15:01 Archer = 10 Mil Duran = 40 Mil Dendonker = 8 Mil Emi Martinez = 55Mil Done 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quazzie goat Posted Sunday at 15:09 Share Posted Sunday at 15:09 I think the key from those accounts will be the 24/25 amortisation? The likes of Martinez, Mings, Konsa will now have a nil value and not be factored in? Plus getting rid of Sanson, Coutinho, Luiz will contribute. Naturally there be incoming players amortisation to factor. The big one though I think will be the wage total will be slashed considerably to make the club leaner for the years ahead until the commercial side of the business is fully flowing. Few of my own assumptions on amounts and potential departures added; Sanson: £60k pw - £3.12m pa, Coutinho: £135k pw - £7m pa, Luiz: £75k pw - £3.9m pa - all confirmed (Coutinho close) - £14m a year saved in wages. If we included this seasons loan players of Zaniolo and Lenglet, that’s probably close to £7.5m wages = £21.5m overall saved. If we assume a few departures: Olsen, £50k pw - £2.6m pa, Hause: £25k pw - £1.3m pa, Dendoncker: £90k pw - £4.68m pa, Digne: £130k pw - £6.76m pa, Chambers: £50k pw - £2.6m pa and maybe £20m incoming fees? Total roughly £19m saved on bit part players apart from Digne. Overall c£40m wages pa. There’s also arguments to be had for Carlos, Moreno, Cash and Duran who have had transfer rumours to depart. Signings will join naturally, but our wage budget has long been too high and on players that aren’t offering the team or squad enough. Careless contracts issued in the past which I don’t think Monchi will tolerate moving forwards. In short, I think we have plans to trim the fat where hopefully we’re not going to be in a position to sell key players again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted Sunday at 15:18 Share Posted Sunday at 15:18 (edited) I said in another thread Kamara might be the next one to move on in 2025 for PSR purposes. He'll be down to 2 years on his contract and I'd have thought a new one would make him pretty much top earner. If Enzo settles in well then I'd say it's even more likely. Edited Sunday at 15:23 by sharkyvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted Sunday at 15:20 Share Posted Sunday at 15:20 (edited) 26 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: We're selling one of our biggest assets and influential players in all aspects for 40m. If people don't think we're getting desperate they are purposely being naive. Of course if Emery smashes it next season again and gets top 4 then happy days but an understandable drop off and things could get very messy indeed especially when we've done a Martin O'Neil and given Emery free reign to run the club. Lol... If we were that" desperate " we could easily have gotten 70 -100 mill plus for the likes of Ollie and/ or Emi etc. Stop the hyperbole man. Edited Sunday at 15:21 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted Sunday at 15:26 Share Posted Sunday at 15:26 13 minutes ago, quazzie goat said: Sanson: £60k pw - £3.12m pa, Coutinho: £135k pw - £7m pa, Luiz: £75k pw - £3.9m pa - all confirmed (Coutinho close) - £14m a year saved in wages. If we included this seasons loan players of Zaniolo and Lenglet, that’s probably close to £7.5m wages = £21.5m overall saved. If we assume a few departures: Olsen, £50k pw - £2.6m pa, Hause: £25k pw - £1.3m pa, Dendoncker: £90k pw - £4.68m pa, Digne: £130k pw - £6.76m pa, Chambers: £50k pw - £2.6m pa and maybe £20m incoming fees? Total roughly £19m saved on bit part players apart from Digne. We didn't pay Coutinho's salary last year so it isn't a saving. Also you haven't factored in the amount we will have to pay to cancel his contract - which could be anywhere between 3 and 7m. No way we are getting 20m in transfers for that lot either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quazzie goat Posted Sunday at 15:32 Share Posted Sunday at 15:32 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: We didn't pay Coutinho's salary last year so it isn't a saving. Also you haven't factored in the amount we will have to pay to cancel his contract - which could be anywhere between 3 and 7m. No way we are getting 20m in transfers for that lot either! Ok, even without Coutinho - my point is we are going to be slashing the wages substantially. £20m isn’t unrealistic? Digne alone could fetch £15m from Saudi who he had links with last summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted Sunday at 15:33 Share Posted Sunday at 15:33 32 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Archer = 10 Mil Duran = 40 Mil Dendonker = 8 Mil Emi Martinez = 55Mil Done Mods. A warning over here please. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted Sunday at 15:42 Share Posted Sunday at 15:42 19 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Lol... If we were that" desperate " we could easily have gotten 70 -100 mill plus for the likes of Ollie and/ or Emi etc. Stop the hyperbole man. I'm not being hyperbolic. The sales don't fit in with what we've been told with compliance previously and a general attitude regards to smashing the top 4 or 6 hierarchy. Selling Doug with 2 years and our only proper striker and an England International at that are different levels of desperation. I'm not calling for the board. I don't think we're going into administration. To be honest, not too bothered what will be will be, we're in the CL and football has never been better...but there is more going on than we've been told. They've already lied about compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted Sunday at 16:03 Share Posted Sunday at 16:03 51 minutes ago, quazzie goat said: I think the key from those accounts will be the 24/25 amortisation? The likes of Martinez, Mings, Konsa will now have a nil value and not be factored in? Plus getting rid of Sanson, Coutinho, Luiz will contribute. Naturally there be incoming players amortisation to factor. The big one though I think will be the wage total will be slashed considerably to make the club leaner for the years ahead until the commercial side of the business is fully flowing. Few of my own assumptions on amounts and potential departures added; Sanson: £60k pw - £3.12m pa, Coutinho: £135k pw - £7m pa, Luiz: £75k pw - £3.9m pa - all confirmed (Coutinho close) - £14m a year saved in wages. If we included this seasons loan players of Zaniolo and Lenglet, that’s probably close to £7.5m wages = £21.5m overall saved. If we assume a few departures: Olsen, £50k pw - £2.6m pa, Hause: £25k pw - £1.3m pa, Dendoncker: £90k pw - £4.68m pa, Digne: £130k pw - £6.76m pa, Chambers: £50k pw - £2.6m pa and maybe £20m incoming fees? Total roughly £19m saved on bit part players apart from Digne. Overall c£40m wages pa. There’s also arguments to be had for Carlos, Moreno, Cash and Duran who have had transfer rumours to depart. Signings will join naturally, but our wage budget has long been too high and on players that aren’t offering the team or squad enough. Careless contracts issued in the past which I don’t think Monchi will tolerate moving forwards. In short, I think we have plans to trim the fat where hopefully we’re not going to be in a position to sell key players again. Is it the case with PSR, that a contract renewal extends the amortisation period? I couldn't find anything in a search that confirmed this expressly, but I think I've seen others mention it in this forum. If so, which players are getting new 5 year deals, this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted Sunday at 16:10 Share Posted Sunday at 16:10 The rules are really unfair for the clubs with less revenue income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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