villabromsgrove Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: Hmm, interesting stuff. Regardless, I'm choosing not to believe it since I can't see how a club can get away with exploiting such a major loophole. If this was so every relegated club would do the same, and FFP would be blown out of the water. If we have some loophole that prevents the club from having the sell the family jewelry then I'm more than happy, it doesn't change my opinion that we should start to do things properly. If AVFC's tangible assets were devalued because of the doom and gloom of being relegated, then it can be argued that the current value is far too low given the enhanced certifiable liquidity of AVFC. If Villa's land holdings were worth a collective 80 million in 2015 then our new owners can reaffirm that value by detailing their intended investment and strategic planning for AVFC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! I'd be a bit miffed if I wasn't enjoying the schaudenfraud of it all, never liked his face. Edited July 23, 2018 by Jareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! Bloody jerknalist!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! If it seems too good to be true............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! Which can also be translated as Wyness didn't have a clue what he was talking about either the Charlatan! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Nonetheless, we are still by the looks of it about to price Jack out of a move - if we are willing not to sell him then there must be some confidence about FFP - just they won't be employing football finance expert Matt Scott anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villabromsgrove Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 No problem .... We will just have to rely on what real self made billionaires do for a living .... employ top experts and and act on their advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Didnt keith wyness say we had a plan for ffp whether that be us in the premier league or championship? Im guessing the state the club was in , it was one of baldricks cunning plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Uncle Albert said: Didnt keith wyness say we had a plan for ffp whether that be us in the premier league or championship? Im guessing the state the club was in , it was one of baldricks cunning plans. He said a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Uncle Albert said: Didnt keith wyness say we had a plan for ffp whether that be us in the premier league or championship? Im guessing the state the club was in , it was one of baldricks cunning plans. Both Him and Xia said a lot of things. They lied ...period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, terrytini said: Has anybody considered maybe revaluing the land we own ? Yeah we've all round the houses with that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicVillan Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 5 minutes ago, Uncle Albert said: Didnt keith wyness say we had a plan for ffp whether that be us in the premier league or championship? Im guessing the state the club was in , it was one of baldricks cunning plans. Plan B - almost fold the club and sell it to billionaires...mission accomplished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, CosmicVillan said: Plan B - almost fold the club and sell it to billionaires...mission accomplished Is that his new song? Any good? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 52 minutes ago, villabromsgrove said: It seems Matt Scott is now saying that he was misinformed by a trusted source. He was originally told that AVFC hadn't activated clause 4.4.2. He's now saying that this was incorrect and it would have been added in automatically. So, no loophole! Good job he didn’t mention it on a radio station or anything, phew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 21 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He ate a lot of things. True. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 40 minutes ago, Uncle Albert said: Didnt keith wyness say we had a plan for ffp whether that be us in the premier league or championship? Im guessing the state the club was in , it was one of baldricks cunning plans. Wyness, you wouldn't know a cunning plan b if it danced on top of a harpsichord singing cunning plan b's are here again. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted July 23, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Nigel said: 'You will never guess what we have found buried in the middle of the pitch.........' Micah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 2 hours ago, blandy said: It ought not to. It's not even true, strictly. It's like if you go to your local shop, buy a watch. If the shop is then sold to a new owner as an ongoinbg business, if your watch breaks, you take it back to the shop, not to the previous owner of the shop. It's the business (in this case the shop/Villa) that has to abide by the law, not indivdual owner(s). Well in that scenario, wouldnt you say us honouring the contracts of the players we dont want to use would fit better? (Ross McCormack and Micah Richards being the broken watches but we are still paying them) It would be like the new owners being told they are not allowed to refurbish the shop because the previous owner refurbished it over the last 3 years, it doesnt matter that you have paid off those loans that the previous owners couldnt afford to pay, it doesnt matter you have enough money to turn this corner shop into a supermarket, you are not allowed because the previous owner refurbished it. In the real world theres nothing you can relate FFP to from a business point of view, it just doesnt make any sense. Everyone knows in reality its there to stop the biggest known names around the world from being overtaken, they dont want people in South East Asia having to learn new names for their brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, Junxs said: Well in that scenario, wouldnt you say us honouring the contracts of the players we dont want to use would fit better? (Ross McCormack and Micah Richards being the broken watches but we are still paying them) It would be like the new owners being told they are not allowed to refurbish the shop because the previous owner refurbished it over the last 3 years, it doesnt matter that you have paid off those loans that the previous owners couldnt afford to pay, it doesnt matter you have enough money to turn this corner shop into a supermarket, you are not allowed because the previous owner refurbished it. In the real world theres nothing you can relate FFP to from a business point of view, it just doesnt make any sense. Everyone knows in reality its there to stop the biggest known names around the world from being overtaken, they dont want people in South East Asia having to learn new names for their brand. I’ve always been suprised that it’s even legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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