CarryOnVilla Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If we got both Edouard and Rashica our frontline opinions would become an absolute wankfest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, nick76 said: I disagree I think aside from CM, another striker is essential as if Samatta is going then we only have a fit Watkins and Davis, which is weak in options. You can add Traoré and Rashica to that list, plus if we are going to play a dynamic front 3 of players chopping and changing throughout a game, Davis could be a fantastic option - Wesley too when back. I’d like another striker, but if Rashica ever gets done then it becomes the 4th priority for new blood, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don't think its us. You heard anything mate? I would never say never. I think there is every chance our hat is definately in the ring regarding interest in the player, but I could be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Awol said: You can add Traoré and Rashica to that list, plus if we are going to play a dynamic front 3 of players chopping and changing throughout a game, Davis could be a fantastic option - Wesley too when back. I’d like another striker, but if Rashica ever gets done then it becomes the 4th priority for new blood, imo. Davis has to go out on loan surely! Wes seems to be Jan at the earliest. I understand moving the other attacking players into the forward line but I think a goalscorer is preferable in that position as the dynamic forward line is great but even the best teams have a real forward in there somewhere from Firmino, Aguero etc. After Milot, Striker and CM, and then I'd be happy/ Target, Taylor are ok for another season there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, OxfordVillan said: I’m not saying we won’t be in for another CF, but you’re forgetting that Traore states his favoured role is striker, and I think his best stats show he’s decent as striker. Yeah maybe, we are still linked with strikers though so may or may not still be in for a striker.....who bloody knows these days!!!!! hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, nick76 said: Davis has to go out on loan surely! Wes seems to be Jan at the earliest. I understand moving the other attacking players into the forward line but I think a goalscorer is preferable in that position as the dynamic forward line is great but even the best teams have a real forward in there somewhere from Firmino, Aguero etc. After Milot, Striker and CM, and then I'd be happy/ Target, Taylor are ok for another season there. I think there is an advantage to keeping Davis here. I would prefer Samatta to go out in loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Davis has to go out on loan surely! Wes seems to be Jan at the earliest. I understand moving the other attacking players into the forward line but I think a goalscorer is preferable in that position as the dynamic forward line is great but even the best teams have a real forward in there somewhere from Firmino, Aguero etc. After Milot, Striker and CM, and then I'd be happy/ Target, Taylor are ok for another season there. Taylor terrifies me. Good enough (Maybe) defender for a No.2, but last season was like a sea-anchor every time we tried to go forward. Targett will break himself, that’s guaranteed at some point. His back up needs to capable or it will cost us points, and Taylor isn’t - only imo, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 If Rashica is coming here, then we are not buying Odsonne as well (I know they are very different players). Unless we are going to take our spending this summer to over 150 million pounds. We need a CM and a back up CB (Hause is not good enough and Engels is constantly injured or out of favour). I think there is no chance he's coming here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I think there is an advantage to keeping Davis here. I would prefer Samatta to go out in loan. Davis does not score goals BUT he does run interference for our striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Davis does not score goals BUT he does run interference for our striker. Correct. In the small doses I seen of him last season I am not expecting a goalscorer, but he is a great nusense to defenders which creates chances more often than not, and that alone is worth having in an attack minded team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: I think there is an advantage to keeping Davis here. I would prefer Samatta to go out in loan. Would Samatta accept a loan though? I think he'll either stay or be sold. I dont think he's in that category of loan. I'll leave my thoughts of Davis at the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Awol said: Taylor terrifies me. Good enough (Maybe) defender for a No.2, but last season was like a sea-anchor every time we tried to go forward. Targett will break himself, that’s guaranteed at some point. His back up needs to capable or it will cost us points, and Taylor isn’t - only imo, of course. I know what you are saying I guess it was just balance of priorities and between you and I they just fractionally different....ideally we both want both! Who knows with the Villa we could get both or could both get neither Edited September 21, 2020 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 35 minutes ago, LondonVillian said: Fairly certain this is not happening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: Davis does not score goals BUT he does run interference for our striker. We play with one striker so he runs interference for himself but he does not score goals! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, nick76 said: I disagree I think aside from CM, another striker is essential as if Samatta is going then we only have a fit Watkins and Davis, which is weak in options. No its not essential, not by a long way; We have traore and wes back soon to add to the 3 above. There are far more essential places that need work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Nigel said: No its not essential, not by a long way; We have traore and wes back soon to add to the 3 above. There are far more essential places that need work Earliest Wes is back is January and you would assume it will take time to get match fit. There are rumours he may not make the season. As for Traore, a lot were slagging him off on here whether it was even a decent signing and now you are throwing him in as our savings grace. We obviously dont agree, but if we dont score goals we are in trouble and the best form of defence is attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Nigel said: No its not essential, not by a long way; We have traore and wes back soon to add to the 3 above. There are far more essential places that need work Didn't someone mention that Wesley is not likely back until January now? I may be wrong. If Samatta was to leave then I feel we might look a bit weak in attack but I wouldn't be overly concerned either, the signing of someone like Eduaord would be a good signing if it materialised. I would sooner we got the AML role confirmed and then focus on another CB, LB and maybe a CM? I don't rate Hause, we don't know what's happening with Engels, and I don't rate Taylor either. We could bolster the midfield a wee bit but I don't think it's another position that's essential when we have Luiz, Marvelous, Hourihane, McGinn & Ramsey, waving bye to Lansbury maybe? Time will tell I guess but there will definately be more movement in the next 16 days. In that time we play Sheff Utd, Bristol City, Fulham and Liverpool which gives us enough time to have a look at what we've got and see where we really still need to strengthen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) I can't see us spending 30m on Watkins then another 30m on this guy, for one of them to be a backup striker. Smith also said that Watkins was the number one priority, which suggests a higher profile striker is not on the cards. Edited September 21, 2020 by Made In Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenfly Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 I've never put any serious stock into this rumour. I'm yet to see any legitimate link with any substance. Besides, as has been stated numerous times, it always seemed like either him or Watkins, not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 (edited) It is clear to me, that the only reason he's not gone anywhere yet is that no one has met Celtic's valuation of him. When they drop their demands (or another club becomes desperate enough) he'll move on. If the former happens, and sits within our appetite and valuation of the player, I wouldnt be surprised to see us sign him. But don't feel he's a priority we need, and another winger, a CM, and a backup CB would all be above him for me Edited September 21, 2020 by MrBlack Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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