Condimentalist Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Excited for him. That video is great - he's genuinely two footed as well as having a bag of tricks, looks a real handful. I really should go to sleep but am more tempted to watch the game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 minute ago, useless said: It's good that he's starting but I wouldn't read too much into it in terms of his chances of being part of our squad next season, the rest of the team are first teamers, and if any of Diaby, Coutinho, Bailey, or Traore were available I imagine they would be starting ahead of Philogene based on the rest of the line-up. Only real surprise is that he's been chosen to play on that left handside ahead of Aaron Ramsey, but I'm sure he will get plenty of chances too. If he impresses though maybe can force his way into the plans, would be good to see, same for Aaron, big shame no Iro, hopefully not injured if so hopefully not too bad. Big chance for Philogene. Well that's it, yeah. It's a chance for him to show what he can do against PL opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Damn, he's tied his afro down. Let that baby go and I'll be demanding he starts every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 He’s firmly on the right wing here. Has had a couple of nice runs, including two where he showed initiative to get it more centrally and get shots off. One was deflected wide for a corner, one reasonably easy for the keeper, but both struck well. He looks a teeeeeny bit lost at sea but that’s expected, and maybe I’m over-reading it. Overall doing well after 35 mins. Good enough for the League Cup and Europa Vauxhall Conference League, you’d imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Has looked excellent so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) If Diaby starts off playing the same way we'll all say he's settled in well and looks a player. Tired towards the end of the half but showed so much in the first 35 mins. He's a confident lad. If we can build on that, he'll be worth a squad place. Edited July 23, 2023 by May-Z 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Want to see more of him, hope we keep him around the squad this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daulmakan Posted July 24, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted July 24, 2023 Pleasantly surprised with him. Kinda reminded me of Arsenal's Nelson, it's a nice sub to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Didn't tell us anything we didn't know tonight. Confident in his ability, can beat a man, but still no end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Noticed The return of Bidace on the shirt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Big improvement over his Walsall outing: was confident, his decision making was good, and unfortunate not to score in a higher stakes game vs better opposition. Needed to grab his chance with Bailey and Diaby likely now to get more minutes and he did himself no harm. I don’t think he is ready to remain around the first team squad, a decent loan with more senior football minutes would maybe serve him better, but maybe the domestic talent requirement may give him the chance? Edited July 24, 2023 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Big fan of JPB so I really hope he continues to do well on this tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Really promising display. He lacked a bit of vision and there were a couple opportunities where he could have released the ball earlier but that's perfectly fine for someone who hasn't played with this level teammates much before. He's young and talented so will adjust quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May-Z Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 8 hours ago, lexicon said: Didn't tell us anything we didn't know tonight. Confident in his ability, can beat a man, but still no end product. Not sure I agree with the 'no end product' in this review. A nice ball across that Watkins was close to, winning a corner from a last ditch interception. A shot that deflected closely wide. Another shot from his weaker foot that was a good effort from the edge of the box. (Those last two created by himself by winning the ball back first) There was also the break away where we scored the third where his cutback was struck against the post. Add as well that he won a penalty against Walsall. He can be held to 'no end product' if counting goals and assists... but I'd say that's a pretty good attacking output - Involved in two goals and worked the keeper/defence with his other two main chances against Newcastle. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, May-Z said: Not sure I agree with the 'no end product' in this review. A nice ball across that Watkins was close to, winning a corner from a last ditch interception. A shot that deflected closely wide. Another shot from his weaker foot that was a good effort from the edge of the box. (Those last two created by himself by winning the ball back first) There was also the break away where we scored the third where his cutback was struck against the post. Add as well that he won a penalty against Walsall. He can be held to 'no end product' if counting goals and assists... but I'd say that's a pretty good attacking output - Involved in two goals and worked the keeper/defence with his other two main chances against Newcastle. That's fair - I'm just not sure given the wider context of his career to date. I don't think he's a lost cause, though, and I wouldn't want to sell him right now - but we're talking about a guy who has 1 assist in almost 50 appearances at senior level. It's a side of his game that he definitely needs to improve. He's got a lot of good things about him, but we need to see more. I'd loan him again this year to a side that'll be looking to make the playoffs in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: That's fair - I'm just not sure given the wider context of his career to date. I don't think he's a lost cause, though, and I wouldn't want to sell him right now - but we're talking about a guy who has 1 assist in almost 50 appearances at senior level. It's a side of his game that he definitely needs to improve. He's got a lot of good things about him, but we need to see more. I'd loan him again this year to a side that'll be looking to make the playoffs in the championship. He also scored 4 goals in the Championship last season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: He also scored 4 goals in the Championship last season though. And? That's not really that many. For players to make it at Villa, they have to be able to boss the championship - the step up to the standard required nowadays is massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 This is his make or break pre-season. At 21, I feel that he should be amongst the first team this season if he has any hopes of making it here. If Emery decides to loan Jaden out again then It doesn't look great for his long term future at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Emery on Philogene - Quote He played very well on loan last year and we decided to play with him in the pre-season and to give him chances to play, showing his quality and today he did it. We are going to decide for him what is the best for the club, for the team and for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: This is his make or break pre-season. At 21, I feel that he should be amongst the first team this season if he has any hopes of making it here. If Emery decides to loan Jaden out again then It doesn't look great for his long term future at the club. I don't think it'd be a problem tbh. He's a little bit of a late developer given everything that's happened in his career but he has a lot of attributes. He needs to add the end product and I'd rather he learnt to do that elsewhere first, as if he plays for us, we'll need to be able to rely on him to produce. I don't think there's any harm in giving him another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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