villan-scott Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, penguin said: I’ve never understood how the personal terms can be agreed before the fee. Isn’t this “tapping up”? I thought you can’t speak with the player before the transfer fee was agreed yet I see this quite often. They can get permission from the club to speak to other clubs if it’s clear they’re going to be moving, while the clubs negotiate a fee. Seems fairly standard these days. Watkins and Cash we’re wrapped up within 24 hours of a fee being agreed publicly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: But nothing from Percy, Evens or Nixon on this How dare you make a fair point...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob182 Posted September 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, rayk said: Nearly 200 pages for a player who just sat in the ‘We might/ we might not’ camp. I said 2-3 weeks ago that it wasn’t going to happen then......BEFORE the thread was closed so I wasn’t using them for vindication. And as for the insult if he does sign....no way.....he’s a quality player and I’ve always said that. If he does sign - and who knows whether he will - I just hope he fits with the ‘no di*kneads’ policy. At this point it’s not an insult. It’s basically a fact. Take it as a friendly warning if you like. You categorically said he IS NOT signing, even though he didn’t sign an extension at Werder and didn’t sign for another club. If he does sign now, then, in VillaTalk terms, you’ll be just as wrong as the long-standing poster who claimed that Ethan Moore was a once in a generation talent who could have been as good as Messi. Separately, just like you, I’ll be over the moon if he signs. I just can’t get my head around you saying you won’t admit you were wrong if he does sign. It’d be like someone in the 50s saying “Man will NEVER go into space. Ever ever ever. That is a fact!”, then when it happened, backtracking and saying “I wasn’t wrong. Based on the technology at the time, we wouldn’t have been able to go into space”. 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, It's Your Round said: Until they cod take no more! I've haddock just about enough of this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, rayk said: But thats weird...... there are so many transfers where we all agree that a bid must be accepted before wages are agreed.....otherwise you disrupt a player? Not when a club has the intention of selling. Like us with Grealish 2 seasons ago. Terms had been agreed with the player they just had not agreed the fee yet. But the club was happy for the player to talk to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, rayk said: I categorically said he wasn’t going to sign 2-3 weeks ago? I didnt wait for the mods to close the thread before I said it but yeah the mods did close down the thread. So if you think I’ll look a tit, I assume you’re saying that about the mods too? Threads are closed when it ‘appears’ the transfer isn’t going to happen. As was stated, the thread would be re-opened if there were fresh links. There were fresh links. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Not when a club has the intention of selling. Like us with Grealish 2 seasons ago. Terms had been agreed with the player they just had not agreed the fee yet. But the club was happy for the player to talk to the club. Bit clubs only allow players to speak to another club if they reasonably believe they’ll get the fee they want. This has to be part of the negotiations. Perhaps not quote Grealish as an example when we had Dr Broke as our owner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, 7392craig said: Threads are closed when it ‘appears’ the transfer isn’t going to happen. As was stated, the thread would be re-opened if there were fresh links. There were fresh links. Yes, and I welcome the fresh links if there is anything to talk about and there is. Doesn’t mean he’s going to sign and doesn’t mean to say he will. He’s a top quality player from all I’ve seen and offers better vfm than Benrahma and I’d love him at Villa if he wants to come and fits the ‘no dickheads’ policy. I’ve said that From the off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 Well thats just torn it, foolishly just watched his highlights! .....I want one of these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, maqroll said: I've haddock just about enough of this Just tuna'd in to see the latest and find the plaice in turmoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Green-White Posted September 11, 2020 Visiting Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2020 good evening Villa fans, i am here to follow how the rashica transfer is taken by you guys, at WB there are high hopes this deal can be done for around 23 million + Bonis 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 hours ago, eholm said: We are clealy now in talks as per Fab's tweet but as Villa fans lets err on the side of caution until its agreed. Nahh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Green-White said: good evening Villa fans, i am here to follow how the rashica transfer is taken by you guys, at WB there are high hopes this deal can be done for around 23 million + Bonis Welcome. What is the word in Germany at the moment? Does it sound like the links are reliable? What is your gut feeling that will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Just tuna'd in to see the latest and find the plaice in turmoil We're floundering here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, rayk said: Bit clubs only allow players to speak to another club if they reasonably believe they’ll get the fee they want. This has to be part of the negotiations. Perhaps not quote Grealish as an example when we had Dr Broke as our owner. Well yeah? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 I don’t get why some are moaning about the amount of pages in this thread because: 1. By posting you are adding to the thread, so there is a certain irony there, and 2. Who cares!? It’s not like we have a page limit on the forum and this is taking up a valuable resource. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Green-White said: good evening Villa fans, i am here to follow how the rashica transfer is taken by you guys, at WB there are high hopes this deal can be done for around 23 million + Bonis Good evening, welcome to Villatalk. Unfortunately we have one poster who is convinced that there is no way that he will sign for us, and that the rest of us are idiots for thinking he might, so there you have it, the transfer is off. Also, the Rashica thread is much much longer than many of the threads for our existing players, but if you read through it you will see that we are quite, quite mad. In fact there is a train at one point. The less said about the pages of fish puns, the batter, I mean better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayk Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, villan-scott said: They can get permission from the club to speak to other clubs if it’s clear they’re going to be moving, while the clubs negotiate a fee. Seems fairly standard these days. Watkins and Cash we’re wrapped up within 24 hours of a fee being agreed publicly. Put bluntly if we’re buying players from the Chumps then yes personal terms can be agreed within 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I don’t get why some are moaning about the amount of pages in this thread because: 1. By posting you are adding to the thread, so there is a certain irony there, and 2. Who cares!? It’s not like we have a page limit on the forum and this is taking up a valuable resource. Exactly. I get the impression that some posters don't like others just having a bit of harmless fun sometimes. There also seems to be concrete links so every reason to have this thread open and no reason not to have a bit of fun at the same time. I enjoy the tongue in cheek humour. It hurts nobody. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted September 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, rayk said: Put bluntly if we’re buying players from the Chumps then yes personal terms can be agreed within 24 hours. Not my point at all. Which you seem to have completely missed. My point of the deals being wrapped up within 24 hours including medical clearly shows that we had spoken to them before a fee is agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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