tinker Posted Sunday at 08:22 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 08:22 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Depends what you define an easy chance. I would say Ollie mentality is great that missing doesn't effect him but I dont think he misses many easy chances He has added this to his game, think he's had some help with the mental side of the game and no letting missed chances play on his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted Sunday at 08:22 Share Posted Sunday at 08:22 13 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: He's back! Plenty of minutes and opportunities for both him and Duran. @Tom13 sorry mate Not really sure why I've been tagged. Took his goals very well, loved the aggression he showed to score the first and get above Keane. Should have had three though, or at least had a much better effort for the third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted Sunday at 08:26 Share Posted Sunday at 08:26 10 hours ago, wilko154 said: Now overtaken Dwight Yorke in the Villa PL records. 14 more goals to take the record. It is so bizarre that Gabby is still top despite being by far the worse striker on that list (yes a couple of promising seasons early on in his career but let's be honest he was mostly crap). It still grates me that people call Gabby a legend, he was nowhere near being one for us. Before him Yorke was a worthy leader, a world class player for us even if he did leave controversially. Confident Ollie will break Gabby's record by the end of this season and he can finally be knocked off the top. For me Ollie and Yorke are the two best strikers we've had in the Premier League era, followed by Benteke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted Sunday at 08:38 Share Posted Sunday at 08:38 74 goals over a 10 year period is beyond shit. 76 including Championship and 12 years. Actually pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted Sunday at 08:44 Share Posted Sunday at 08:44 5 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: 74 goals over a 10 year period is beyond shit. 76 including Championship and 12 years. Actually pathetic. Conversely, Benteke's record is phenomenal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted Sunday at 09:30 Share Posted Sunday at 09:30 I love the way Ollie found the time to see where Pickford was positioned when that ball, inadvertently, came across to him for the second. All those thinking he should have been dropped, there's the reply. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted Sunday at 10:14 Share Posted Sunday at 10:14 (edited) Good two goals happy for his confidence and he will be on job this season.. p.s Watkins and Duran are definitely amicable, they are not fond of each other.. Edited Sunday at 10:14 by Reivax_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted Sunday at 10:19 Popular Post Share Posted Sunday at 10:19 3 minutes ago, Reivax_Villa said: p.s Watkins and Duran are definitely amicable, they are not fond of each other.. Is there evidence for this or another one of these made up things about Duran people keep saying? Watkins was all over him celebrating the goal 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Mat Posted Sunday at 10:41 Share Posted Sunday at 10:41 14 hours ago, Spoony said: Such a paradox this man. Misses so many chances, still scores 2 and got 19 last season. I’m staring to think I just misunderstand how many easy chances elite strikers must miss. I've always felt the same, but I saw this the other day which it surprised me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted Sunday at 10:47 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 (edited) 2 hours ago, lexicon said: Conversely, Benteke's record is phenomenal. It’s why my eyes kinda glaze over looking at that goal scoring table, no reference to the number of appearances. The dates included give an indication but don’t acknowledge any injuries missed during that time. A quick search suggests it’s - Agbonlahor - 322 appearances, 74 goals Watkins - 150 apps, 61 goals Yorke - 179 apps, 60 goals Dublin - 155 apps, 48 goals Angel - 175 apps, 44 goals Benteke - 89 apps, 42 goals It would be great if Ollie could reach 100 PL goals for us. Gabby’s tally smashed this season, then the next season try and reach a century. Edited Sunday at 10:48 by Mark Albrighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted Sunday at 10:53 Share Posted Sunday at 10:53 (edited) 12 minutes ago, The Other Mat said: I've always felt the same, but I saw this the other day which it surprised me... Top strikers miss chances but they will keep getting in great positions and score more than they miss. He should have had a hatrick yesterday but to be fair had Roger's got the easy pass right he would have. So that would have been 4 chances 3 goals which is a good return. I've always thought he is better when he has less time to think. Edited Sunday at 10:54 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted Sunday at 10:55 Share Posted Sunday at 10:55 2 hours ago, lexicon said: Conversely, Benteke's record is phenomenal. Especially when you consider his 3 years with us included quite a few injuries too. I was convinced he would go on to be one of the best strikers in Europe, ultimately I think the injuries curtailed what he could have become, along with some poor career moves along the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted Sunday at 11:02 Share Posted Sunday at 11:02 5 minutes ago, david-avfc said: Especially when you consider his 3 years with us included quite a few injuries too. I was convinced he would go on to be one of the best strikers in Europe, ultimately I think the injuries curtailed what he could have become, along with some poor career moves along the way. And the absolutely tragic level of teammate he had with us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted Sunday at 12:05 Share Posted Sunday at 12:05 If you think it's possible to have a squad of footballers and not have some disliking each other, then you are extremely gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted Sunday at 12:11 Share Posted Sunday at 12:11 3 hours ago, Leeroy said: It is so bizarre that Gabby is still top despite being by far the worse striker on that list (yes a couple of promising seasons early on in his career but let's be honest he was mostly crap). It still grates me that people call Gabby a legend, he was nowhere near being one for us. Before him Yorke was a worthy leader, a world class player for us even if he did leave controversially. Confident Ollie will break Gabby's record by the end of this season and he can finally be knocked off the top. For me Ollie and Yorke are the two best strikers we've had in the Premier League era, followed by Benteke. Not for me, Angel was poetry in motion at times. Ollie is going to smash that record. It wouldn't surprise me were he to do it this season. I honestly think we'll see him go on a massive run of goals now. He is easily our best striker at this level.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted Sunday at 12:14 VT Supporter Share Posted Sunday at 12:14 6 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: If you think it's possible to have a squad of footballers and not have some disliking each other, then you are extremely gullible. Duran wants to start and Ollie is in his way, if there's a rivalry then it's professional and that can help us by pushing both of them to improve. Competition in a squad is vital to succeed, don't worry about the opposition, worry about your colleagues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted Sunday at 12:53 Share Posted Sunday at 12:53 2 hours ago, Reivax_Villa said: Good two goals happy for his confidence and he will be on job this season.. p.s Watkins and Duran are definitely amicable, they are not fond of each other.. Watkins is 8 years older than Duran, a noted family man, and a generally reserved personality. I’d be surprised if he ever sees or talks to Duran outside of BMH, travel, and match day. They can be friendly coworkers and supportive teammates but it’s no shock that they’re not as friendly as Rogers and Duran. It’s like asking why McGinn or Emi (either) aren’t all buddy buddy with him. Very different points in their lives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted Sunday at 13:14 Share Posted Sunday at 13:14 58 minutes ago, tinker said: Duran wants to start and Ollie is in his way, if there's a rivalry then it's professional and that can help us by pushing both of them to improve. Competition in a squad is vital to succeed, don't worry about the opposition, worry about your colleagues. Sheringham hated Cole, but that never got in the way of that United team being the most successful in the Premier League era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted Sunday at 13:17 Share Posted Sunday at 13:17 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: If you think it's possible to have a squad of footballers and not have some disliking each other, then you are extremely gullible. Not saying I believe they don't like each other or anything of the sort. But Vidigany comments won't have helped I do have a feeling the comment may have been lost in translation though lol. About him thinking he's better etc. Or should I say there is missing context or it was delivered too bluntly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted Sunday at 13:22 Share Posted Sunday at 13:22 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not saying I believe they don't like each other or anything of the sort. But Vidigany comments won't have helped I do have a feeling the comment may have been lost in translation though lol. About him thinking he's better etc. Or should I say there is missing context or it was delivered too bluntly. Even if he did say It, I don't think it's that bad of a thing. He's young, brash and very self - confident. That could go against him by firing Ollie up to shove those words back down his throat. I think Duran is just a marmite personality, he'll mellow with age, like most of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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