Tom13 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 If we're going to be starting both of them while Traore is at the ACON, I would try Ings on the left. He's a more intelligent player, a better passer, yes not as much pace but cutting inside I could see him being pretty useful. Might fail but I'd try it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: 20/21 29 appearances and 12 goals 19/20 38 appearances ,22 goals 18/19 24 appearances 7goals 17/18 8 appearances 1 goal 15/16 6 appearances 1 goal He did his cruciate and had knee surgery along with hamstring injurys and plenty more niggles I wonder if he’d still be with Pool had he not blown out his knee and missed 300 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, useless said: Ings is the closet you will get to a modern day Darren Bent, main difference he works harder, but ultimately he's like an old fahsioned 'fox in the box' striker. There's a reason that despite having a very goal scoring record in terms of goals to appearance ratio, he's spent his career at clubs like Burnley, Southampton, not being able to get into the Liverpool team, and then signing for us as a back up striker, and that's because his all round game isn't great, he doesn't offer much unless he's scoring goals. Which is fine, he's a good weapon to have to come off the bench. Not true 6 minutes ago, useless said: Watkins is the opposite, scores goals and has a very good all round game, he's the best striker we've had in a long time, only Benteke comes close. Last season he was, this season he’s a shadow of himself. Ings is better at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: I wonder if he’d still be with Pool had he not blown out his knee and missed 300 days. Probably that and the emergence of Firminio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Can he play CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post useless Posted January 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2022 Ings hasn't been anywhere near as good as Watkins, it's not even close. Watkins has been our best attacker this season, and we look so much better with him in the side, people focus too much on the odd time he might lose the ball, or that a pass doesn't quite work out, and completely ignore all the good he does. You don't see Ings make the same kind of mistakes that Watkins sometimes makes, because Ings doesn't get into the game enough to make those mistakes. It's not even that Ings is bad, I thought he played well today, it's just that Watkins is better and more consistent. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, AV82 said: Can he play CB? Probably as well as Hause did today 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 ings scored a good goal and was one of our better players today but we loose that running, and pressing and workrate without him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, useless said: Ings hasn't been anywhere near as good as Watkins, it's not even close. Watkins has been our best attacker this season, and we look so much better with him in the side, people focus too much on the odd time he might lose the ball, or that a pass doesn't quite work out, and completely ignore all the good he does. You don't see Ings make the same kind of mistakes that Watkins sometimes makes, because Ings doesn't get into the game enough to make those mistakes. It's not even that Ings is bad, I thought he played well today, it's just that Watkins is better and more consistent. This is your opinion but I disagree completely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, PaulC said: ings scored a good goal and was one of our better players today but we loose that running, and pressing and workrate without him. Problem is that Ollie’s work rate, mobility hasn’t been the same this season and he seems slightly slower. I wonder if his early season injury has affected more than we thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, nick76 said: Problem is that Ollie’s work rate, mobility hasn’t been the same this season and he seems slightly slower. I wonder if his early season injury has affected more than we thought. We looked really toothless today though without him even though we controlled large parts of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, PaulC said: We looked really toothless today though without him even though we controlled large parts of the game. We’ve looked toothless for ages whether Watkins or Ings or both are playing. Watkins doesn’t make us less toothless, if anything he makes it worse this season. Most of that is because we don’t create enough for our strikers but our attacking play doesn’t look more toothless if Ollie doesn’t play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, nick76 said: We’ve looked toothless for ages whether Watkins or Ings or both are playing. Watkins doesn’t make us less toothless, if anything he makes it worse this season. Most of that is because we don’t create enough for our strikers but our attacking play doesn’t look more toothless if Ollie doesn’t play. Against the better teams yes but against the teams we can beat who have beat we looked more threatening than today. Not Ings fault, he played well but there was no pace to get behind them. Edited January 2, 2022 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: If we're going to be starting both of them while Traore is at the ACON, I would try Ings on the left. He's a more intelligent player, a better passer, yes not as much pace but cutting inside I could see him being pretty useful. Might fail but I'd try it. If we get a really mobile attacking left wing back we could try the 3-5-2 again. We did have a few good performances, it's just Dean kept with it too long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I think we’ve clearly looked best this season when Watkins has been at CF in a front 3. Yes he has technical issues and his finishing isn’t as good as Ings… and he sometimes takes the selfish option when there’s a pass on. I get all of that. But despite those weaknesses, we just look a much more balanced side with him leading the line, and I’m surprised there’s any debate about that tbh. Ings is a very clever, talented player who I massively rate, but I don’t think he suits our system. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Any one think he didn't play, because of a problem behind closed doors, or genuine Covid. Gerrard didn't seem to want to say much about him. I personally think he is looking for a move, especially now Smith has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLARETANDBLUEFOXY Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 His coyness in the interview (Gerrard) screams “he’s off” to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Any one think he didn't play, because of a problem behind closed doors, or genuine Covid. Gerrard didn't seem to want to say much about him. I personally think he is looking for a move, especially now Smith has gone. The fact he said hes back next game means it must be covid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Watkins will only be off if it is in our best interests . Which means an obcene amount of .money north of 50 . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 32 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Watkins will only be off if it is in our best interests . Which means an obcene amount of .money north of 50 . Yep. £30m odd from the Championship, now proven he can do it in the Prem. No reason to sell for under £50m. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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