DJBOB Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) I wouldn't sell Ollie for anything this summer and we have no incentive to do so for a few reasons. 5 year contract signed in 2023 - unless he makes a stink, have no reason to move - and doesn't seem to be the type to do so unless player and club found a way A scarcity in the CF position - very few true CF positions out there that can do it all back to goal, linking play, getting in behind, and scoring. These are the only players at that level with Ollie for me Kane Haaland - weaker link up play and back to goal Benzema - older Lewandowski - older Osimhein Then a giant cliff to the next set of players Unreal fitness This set of combinations has always made him hard to replace but now that he's being played as an out and out striker instead of a quasi left forward for most of his career, you're really seeing the counting stats pile up. Edited April 10 by DJBOB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 10 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10 On 08/04/2024 at 19:40, OutByEaster? said: Seems odd that Ollie might be the top scorer and the top assist maker in the league this season and not be in the running for Footballer of the Year. Remind me. Who does he play for again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DJBOB said: I wouldn't sell Ollie for anything this summer and we have no incentive to do so for a few reasons. 5 year contract signed in 2023 - unless he makes a stink, have no reason to move - and doesn't seem to be the type to do so unless player and club found a way A scarcity in the CF position - very few true CF positions out there that can do it all back to goal, linking play, getting in behind, and scoring. These are the only players at that level with Ollie for me Kane Haaland - weaker link up play and back to goal Benzema - older Lewandowski - older Osimhein Then a giant cliff to the next set of players Unreal fitness This set of combinations has always made him hard to replace but now that he's being played as an out and out striker instead of a quasi left forward for most of his career, you're really seeing the counting stats pile up. And that’s without pens. If he had pens he’d be well clear ahead as the best forward player in the league this year. Edited April 10 by DakotaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: And that’s without pens. If he had pens he’d be well clear ahead as the best forward player in the league this year. But maybe for the best for the team and his confidence that he's not on permanent penalty duty! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 10 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10 Top 5 striker in the World might not get into the England squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 1 hour ago, DJBOB said: I wouldn't sell Ollie for anything this summer and we have no incentive to do so for a few reasons. 5 year contract signed in 2023 - unless he makes a stink, have no reason to move - and doesn't seem to be the type to do so unless player and club found a way A scarcity in the CF position - very few true CF positions out there that can do it all back to goal, linking play, getting in behind, and scoring. These are the only players at that level with Ollie for me Kane Haaland - weaker link up play and back to goal Benzema - older Lewandowski - older Osimhein Then a giant cliff to the next set of players Unreal fitness This set of combinations has always made him hard to replace but now that he's being played as an out and out striker instead of a quasi left forward for most of his career, you're really seeing the counting stats pile up. You sell him you go backwards. It might make financial sense but would rather sell.any other player than Watkins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, PaulC said: You sell him you go backwards. It might make financial sense but would rather sell.any other player than Watkins Martinez is irreplaceable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Martinez is irreplaceable. To an extent but goalscorers are even harder to find and we have one with 28 G+A in 31 appearances. That's absolutely elite numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 2 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: And that’s without pens. If he had pens he’d be well clear ahead as the best forward player in the league this year. i assume you dont remember seeing him take pens Ive no issue with Pens being included, we dont exclude one yard tap ins. A goal is a goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Totally agree re his past pens but If you look at Ollie’s self development you can be damn sure that he’s been working on his penalties and is probably itching for a chance to get them back. Will be interesting to see what happens if we get a pen in the next two league games whilst Luiz is suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 39 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: Totally agree re his past pens but If you look at Ollie’s self development you can be damn sure that he’s been working on his penalties and is probably itching for a chance to get them back. Will be interesting to see what happens if we get a pen in the next two league games whilst Luiz is suspended. Would assume it goes back to Ollie. I’m sure they’ve been practicing pens for these knockout rounds anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 Yeah unless Ollie has a catastrophically bad record in training I would think he would be taking them in Doug's absence. Every other facet of his game has improved so I don't see why taking penalties won't have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) Bryan King taking Watkins, "We lack a big team mentality" out of context. The comment is not a dig at the size of the club per se, more "Big" as in a more successful club, because consistently successful clubs are far less inclined to have the nine minutes of madness we had on Saturday. I do however, agree that it would have been better left for the changing rooms, because, as we can see, these kind of comments are always open to interpretation. Edited April 11 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) On 10/04/2024 at 17:47, sharkyvilla said: Yeah unless Ollie has a catastrophically bad record in training I would think he would be taking them in Doug's absence. Every other facet of his game has improved so I don't see why taking penalties won't have. The thing with pens is you can get 10 out of 10 in training, but in a match where a penalty is all important, then it comes down to mentality. Prime example, Harry Kane against France. Edited April 11 by sheepyvillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 (edited) I hope Ollie destroys any sort of " plan " they feel they may have. Edited April 11 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 On 10/04/2024 at 20:36, DakotaVilla said: And that’s without pens. If he had pens he’d be well clear ahead as the best forward player in the league this year. If he had pens his stats wouod be the same. Just with more missed pens. There's a reason he got taken off them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I hope Ollie destroys any sort of " plan " they feel they may have. The plan wasn't great 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 42 minutes ago, Tom13 said: The plan wasn't great Plan of 'don't mark him' in backfire shocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 25th goal of the season, first player since Yorke to get that many in a top flight season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: 25th goal of the season, first player since Yorke to get that many in a top flight season With potentially another 10 games to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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