Villa87 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 6 hours ago, Rolta said: I'm from Tiverton, and I also have a big soft spot for Ollie for his being from Devon as much as anything. Exeter City were the real local team for me, so it only compounds things further. I also think he's been a great signing and I rate him anyway. I’m living in South Devon. Lad I work with played 5 a side against him some years back. Literally ridiculously good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I don’t think he is either. We are the right level for him which is why he ain’t going anywhere. But a lot around here would have told you he isn’t even good enough for us a few weeks ago. I’m afraid that’s the reality of the matter - he wasn’t good enough. You might prefer to say he was off form, going through a difficult spell - you can spin it whichever way you choose, but he wasn’t good enough and I think many of us felt the same. Since Unai came in - thankfully Ollie is improving, he is looking more calm and assured in himself and confidence is restored and I would wager he feels he is going to score in every game at the moment and this is fantastic for us - however for me a cautionary note, we have to judge him over a longer period to see if the improvement is sustained or Ollie is in a rich vein of form. I’m hoping it’s the former. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: I’m afraid that’s the reality of the matter - he wasn’t good enough. You might prefer to say he was off form, going through a difficult spell - you can spin it whichever way you choose, but he wasn’t good enough and I think many of us felt the same. Since Unai came in - thankfully Ollie is improving, he is looking more calm and assured in himself and confidence is restored and I would wager he feels he is going to score in every game at the moment and this is fantastic for us - however for me a cautionary note, we have to judge him over a longer period to see if the improvement is sustained or Ollie is in a rich vein of form. I’m hoping it’s the former. If Ollie wasn’t good enough then nobody in the team were good enough and all needed replacing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: If Ollie wasn’t good enough then nobody in the team were good enough and all needed replacing. If that’s your view then fine. I don’t recall many calling for the whole team to be replaced - but I’m pretty sure there were many who wanted Ollie out not so long ago. I was one of them and now I’m hoping his transition is permanent, but I’ll wait a little longer before making a judgement call 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrBlack Posted March 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, Villa87 said: I’m living in South Devon. Lad I work with played 5 a side against him some years back. Literally ridiculously good It always amazes me how bad some players can "look" when playing in the Premier league. The number of semi pros I've played alongside that have absolutely wiped the floor with any of the usual crowd I played with, and yet never even got close to making it out the local Saturday league, let alone into non league. PL pros are all an absolute mile above what you see in the day to day, but the difference is they're playing against other players of a similar standard, and it can make them look poor on occasion. Watkins is insanely fit, and his finishing and first touch are better than he'd been showing, until his recent run of form. He's also now got a coach, playing an actual system and, that is coaching him on where to be and when to be there. Great to see him back in form. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, ChesterDad said: If that’s your view then fine. I don’t recall many calling for the whole team to be replaced - but I’m pretty sure there were many who wanted Ollie out not so long ago. I was one of them and now I’m hoping his transition is permanent, but I’ll wait a little longer before making a judgement call That’s the point. People single out certain players when the whole team isn’t performing or if they don’t win. Ollie was one of them. Mings and Mcginn had it bad too. If and when the team go through another poor run of form Ollie will be singled out again I’m sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 49 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: That’s the point. People single out certain players when the whole team isn’t performing or if they don’t win. Ollie was one of them. Mings and Mcginn had it bad too. If and when the team go through another poor run of form Ollie will be singled out again I’m sure. But the criticism aimed at Ollie was totally valid - let’s have it right, he was quite dreadful at times and could have had very little reason to have complained if he had been benched. But let’s hope this is behind him now and Unai’s coaching continues to mould him into a complete striker - the core elements are there without question 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Not picked. What more can he do??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachboys1 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 i wonder if toney bettted on it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spoony said: Not picked. What more can he do??? Put the numbers Kane, Rashford and Toney have this season, I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spoony said: Not picked. What more can he do??? Toney and Kane are tough to get past. He's unlucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MachoFantastico Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Unlucky for Ollie. As for Toney, the whole situation around him baffles me, he's already admitted to betting charges and will likely face a ban at some point, but Southgate still calls him up. Joke that. Still, less chance of Ollie getting injured and I don't care much for England these days. Edited March 16, 2023 by MachoFantastico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, Spoony said: Not picked. What more can he do??? Not play for a club Southgate hates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Toney and Kane are tough to get past. He's unlucky Not really, he could have taken all three and left out any of: Phillips, Dire, Maguire or Gallagher, none of whom deserved a call up. Yes they play different positions but it’s never stopped the tool picking too many right backs before. I feel for Ollie because he deserved to be in that squad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 Absolutely disgusting that Kalvin Phillips is called up when players like Ollie are being overlooked. Literally downright outrageous. He's played 56 mins of PL football in 9 months. 56. Fifty f**king six. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Does he qualify for any other nations? He should go play for them if wants an international career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggy_333 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nicho said: Does he qualify for any other nations? He should go play for them if wants an international career. You ignoring the 7 caps he's already got yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 I wasn't really expecting Watkins to get picked this time, Toney is ahead of him still. If and when Toney gets suspended Ollie should be next in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Fraudgate strikes again. Form this form that. Just f off pleeeease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Osirus Posted March 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Would rather he spent his time at Bodymoor under Emery than a week with that muppet Southgate, international duty brings nothing but trouble to Villa Edited March 16, 2023 by Osirus 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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