MCU Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, PaulC said: I bet a lot of teams would love to have Watkins leading the line for them. Touch wood he's hardly ever injured. Runs for 95 minutes. How much money have the likes of chelsea and Liverpool spent on forwards Agree. I used to only really assess Watkins of why he’s not scoring more, but he looks like a nightmare to play against especially off the ball. I think he’s a real asset for us and we’d have been silly to sell him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WHY Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) I reckon he will get into double figures again this season. That will be his 3rd on the trot in the PL, he gets slated but there aren’t many strikers that do that. He isn’t perfect but the kid works hard and keeps on trying. We need better but trying to find a striker that will return more goals than him isn’t easy. Plenty of strikers who have cost a lot more than him have failed. Edited January 21, 2023 by WHY 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I like Watkins and it’ll be interesting to see how he’d do in the Bailey role provided we can find someone to play in the Watkins position if that makes sense. His intricate play is slowly getting slightly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 36 minutes ago, Tom13 said: The funny thing is, Watkins rarely makes intelligent runs off defenders. It limits what Buendia's game is all about so much. Watkins has 3 goals and 2 assist in 7 games. He's far from the worst of our attacking players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icouldtelltheworld Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: I like Watkins and it’ll be interesting to see how he’d do in the Bailey role provided we can find someone to play in the Watkins position if that makes sense. His intricate play is slowly getting slightly better. Agree with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, AV82 said: Watkins has 3 goals and 2 assist in 7 games. He's far from the worst of our attacking players. I go off watching him rather than the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, WHY said: I reckon he will get into double figures again this season. That will be his 3rd on the trot in the PL, he gets slated but there aren’t many strikers that do that. He isn’t perfect but the kid works hard and keeps on trying. We need better but trying to find a striker that will return more goals than him isn’t easy. Plenty of strikers who have cost a lot more than him have failed. You are right when you say that there are not many strikers who will score more - but unfortunately that still does not equate to him being good enough. Certainly not for where we as supporters wish us to aspire too. Ollie is average - harsh maybe ? But it’s true. He is more miss than hit. To go where we would like to go, we need a striker who averages approx 18 per season and yes you are right - these are hard to find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, MCU said: Agree. I used to only really assess Watkins of why he’s not scoring more, but he looks like a nightmare to play against especially off the ball. I think he’s a real asset for us and we’d have been silly to sell him. Yes, again Watkins is a machine. Quick, strong and tireless. Works so hard it is infectious, will only improve under the guidance of Professor Emery. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 I just love how he keeps scoring and assisting and shutting up his haters 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, ChesterDad said: You are right when you say that there are not many strikers who will score more - but unfortunately that still does not equate to him being good enough. Certainly not for where we as supporters wish us to aspire too. Ollie is average - harsh maybe ? But it’s true. He is more miss than hit. To go where we would like to go, we need a striker who averages approx 18 per season and yes you are right - these are hard to find. This is such a weird, random comment to make. Goes well with the nonsense about him being more miss than hit. What is it? 7 games, 3 goals and 2 assists under Emery? That's pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, lexicon said: This is such a weird, random comment to make. Goes well with the nonsense about him being more miss than hit. What is it? 7 games, 3 goals and 2 assists under Emery? That's pretty good. Please - come on, you’re not seriously trying to suggest Ollie is anything more than average are you? Ollie is what he is - it’s there for all to see. If you see anything more than this - then fine that’s entirely your prerogative and opinion which you are perfectly entitled too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bannedfromHandV Posted January 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 21, 2023 Watkins showed today why Danny Ings cannot - not would not, but cannot fit the system. Ings has many qualities but Watkins is significantly better at running the channels, competing for high balls and playing with his back to the defence. Showed some good pieces of link up play and foot work too today, scored the winning goal - not a bad days work at all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Ollie is far above average if we’re talking overall contribution. Whenever a high ball is lumped towards him and he’s alone with two opposition players climbing over him, I bet on him to come away with the ball most times. His finishing obviously isn’t good enough but we’d be stupid to get rid, get a good finisher to play off him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I go off watching him rather than the numbers. Funnily enough I watch him too. I've never rated him and always called for Ings to start but if you can't see what Watkins offers now under Emery then you're lost. If the midfield behind him and his partner up top can start feeding him more chances he'll score a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 What I thought I saw today was: Watkins got shouldered off the ball quite a bit when chasing the ball by bigger defenders Watkins getting mauled by defenders and not getting called Watkins scoring a goal off a set piece. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 17 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Ollie is far above average if we’re talking overall contribution. Whenever a high ball is lumped towards him and he’s alone with two opposition players climbing over him, I bet on him to come away with the ball most times. His finishing obviously isn’t good enough but we’d be stupid to get rid, get a good finisher to play off him. About that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, AV82 said: Funnily enough I watch him too. I've never rated him and always called for Ings to start but if you can't see what Watkins offers now under Emery then you're lost. If the midfield behind him and his partner up top can start feeding him more chances he'll score a lot more. He doesn't get fed chances because he doesn't make intelligent runs or make the space for himself. Hence why Buendia used to create loads of chances for Ings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: He doesn't get fed chances because he doesn't make intelligent runs or make the space for himself. Hence why Buendia used to create loads of chances for Ings. Intelligent runs you say… Edited January 21, 2023 by Delphinho123 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Intelligent runs you say… He'd bag 40 with Buendia behind him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted January 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Ollie is far above average if we’re talking overall contribution. Whenever a high ball is lumped towards him and he’s alone with two opposition players climbing over him, I bet on him to come away with the ball most times. His finishing obviously isn’t good enough but we’d be stupid to get rid, get a good finisher to play off him. Indeed - a wide forward with killer instinct. A Salah to Watkins' Firmino if you like (thinking in terms of compatibility rather than quality of player, but we can dream) Edit: If Bailey does more of what we know he can when he blows hit and starts scoring some of those chances... Edited January 21, 2023 by one_ian_taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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