duke313 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 15 hours ago, CVByrne said: Agreed. I would be surprised if Suarez didn't join Villa in summer tbh. Just makes so much sense. It's a free transfer, he has a wealth of experience, there are 5 subs. We need another top quality option up front. Watkins and Ings partnership is looking good. Having the option for Suarez in with those two is very exciting. Archer getting some game time too before another loan in January. Yeah 5 subs will make a massive difference next season. Players who might have went on loan will probably stay around the first team now, and will benefit players like Sanson who should see more minutes even if it's from the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rosk Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I've been asked by two separate people today about my thoughts on Watkins to West Ham. Is this just mindless speculation or is there some truth to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Rosk said: I've been asked by two separate people today about my thoughts on Watkins to West Ham. Is this just mindless speculation or is there some truth to it? no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Perfect replacement for Antonio. Start bidding at 60 thank you very mucb. And then buy Ward Prowse with the funds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rosk Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I guess if we're aiming to put Coutinho and Buendia in the same team and keeping INgs then Ollie is the most sellable asset for a high price. Id be hesitant to move him on as I do love him a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 The Guardian have reported that he's a key target for West Ham, but I don't think there's any chance whatsoever that we will be selling him, least of all to them, as we won't want to be seen as losing our best players to a club we should be looking to overtake, we don't need the money, and if we did we've got other players we could sell before we thought about selling Watkins, I think he will probobaly sign a new contract soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 We'd be more likely to sell Ings than Watkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rosk Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, useless said: We'd be more likely to sell Ings than Watkins. I reckon we'd get £20m at best for Ings, whereas we could easily command £50m for Watkins. Depends on where the funds are and how much we're looking to spend elsewhere - whilst we're looking to move on the likes of AEG/Trez/Keinan etc, I can't see us getting tons of money for them. Can't be spending net £100m+ every window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Would jump at anything above £35m. I rate Ings more. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 We won't be selling him for a loss or marginal "profit" and those dildo salesmen won't pay a premium price for a middle of the road PL striker. It's a non starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 If we can make a profit on him then I'm fine with him leaving. Like the guy a lot but he doesn't have great technique in all honesty. Much prefer Ings (appreciate they play differently) as he's a far better finisher in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I don’t think he’s going anywhere, I rate Ings more but regardless we need 2 strikers, I doubt we will be able to find a suitable replacement and we have other areas to strengthen, I swear there’s some kind of mental block that you can’t have one or the other, its the same in the Buendia/ Coutinho thread. We’re building a squad not a starting 11. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Agents are not idiots. They let information out there to help contract negotiations. Watkins and McGinn will sign new contracts in the next few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 I think 60 mill+ then I'd be tempted, but I wouldn't want us to sell him yet. I think he still has a lot to offer even though he can be frustrating at times, he's definitely one of the players I'd look to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 21 minutes ago, CVByrne said: McGinn Ollie yes, McGinn has signed two since promotion. He's hardly made himself irreplaceable and highly valuable to the first team in recent months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Dale said: Ollie yes, McGinn has signed two since promotion. He's hardly made himself irreplaceable and highly valuable to the first team in recent months. He signed an extension in Dec 2020 just after we stayed up. It's reportedly 70k per week and ends in 2025. Watkins new deal will extend his transfer fee amortisation. We pay 6m per year in amortisation and pay him 3.9m salary. So that's -9.9m per year he currently costs. if we bump him to 100k and 2 year extension he then costs 3.6m per year in amortisation and 5.2m in salary so is -8.8m per year total. I assume both McGinn and Watkins will be offered 100k+ per week + bonuses or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 hour ago, useless said: We'd be more likely to sell Ings than Watkins. No way, definitely sell Watkins before Ings. Ings is better suited to the system, Watkins will generate a higher fee because of his age and it will provide funds to provide a striker that Gerrard may want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Rustibrooks said: I think 60 mill+ then I'd be tempted, but I wouldn't want us to sell him yet. I think he still has a lot to offer even though he can be frustrating at times, he's definitely one of the players I'd look to keep. Depends on whether Gerrard has other strikers in mind. If does then sell, if he doesn’t then keep. I think most of the players are options for sale if Gerrard has other players in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 In a possession based team Watkins isn't needed as much as Ings. But as it stands right now Watkins is more important as he is an outlet that never stops running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Depends on whether Gerrard has other strikers in mind. If does then sell, if he doesn’t then keep. I think most of the players are options for sale if Gerrard has other players in mind. Definitely, my problem is outside of the top strikers in the world, It's hard to find a decent striker without much risk. Jonathan David/Osimhen are a bit risky due to them playing outside the prem(It's not that much of a factor for me personally) and the latter is going to cost A LOT. I'm not even that convinced by Osimhen if I'm totally honest I think he's alright but a bit overhyped. Nunez is likely to go to Utd, Jesus is probably off to Arsenal and Adeyemi is off to Dortmund. I'm sure there's strikers out there, that's what scouting is for but I just think the position in general is not what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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