Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I thought he was OK against the Barcodes and unlucky not to get his goal. Tactically Villa are a little off, pumping long balls into the box was a terrible idea and we should not have been doing it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Aston_Villan4 Posted February 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Demitri_C said: He wouldnt even go celebrate with his team mates vs leeds. He is just miserable and not a team player. Sorry, but which goal are you referring to? Coutinhos? or was it Ramseys first goal? or maybe you meant Ramseys second? 5 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 56 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: I thought he was OK against the Barcodes and unlucky not to get his goal. Tactically Villa are a little off, pumping long balls into the box was a terrible idea and we should not have been doing it. OT: with the design on Villa’s home shirt this season I now think of us as the barcodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Can a player not be playing well because hes out of form, not because hes unhappy, lack of sleep or hes crap. Hes was great last season, he has not performed to that level this, theres nothing more to it. Time to give Ings a run and see if he can do any better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentfordnylons Posted February 15, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 13/02/2022 at 23:55, Johnnyp said: But how do you account for his Brentford form if we are going on the Grealish theory. This Watkins wouldn’t even start for championship Brentford. He would start a premier league Brentford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 48 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Sorry, but which goal are you referring to? Coutinhos? or was it Ramseys first goal? or maybe you meant Ramseys second? Pictures prove nothing. Live, his body language was like it was a effort He just don't look like a player enjoying his football, watch him the next game, watch his none existent work rate. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Pictures prove nothing. Live, his body language was like it was a effort He just don't look like a player enjoying his football, watch him the next game, watch his none existent work rate. Oh for fvcks sake. Seriously? I knew this would be the counter argument. Read the quote I responded to. The pictures literally prove he went over and celebrated with his teammates against Leeds. Edited February 15, 2022 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 He always celebrates with the other players, I've no idea why people are trying to claim otherwise, you always see him congratulating other players and calling others over to join in the celebrations, just because he isn't going wild doesn't mean to say he isn't celebrating. Was surprised to see Ashley Preece doing a Q&A thing yesterday and him also repeating the idea that he dosen't celebrate, it seems one of those things that's been repeated so often now that people believe it despite evidence to the contrary. To be honest I don't think he's reacting any differently to goals than he did last season, and was probably the same at Brentford. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, useless said: He always celebrates with the other players, I've no idea why people are trying to claim otherwise, you always see him congratulating other players and calling others over to join in the celebrations, just because he isn't going wild doesn't mean to say he isn't celebrating. Was surprised to see Ashley Preece doing a Q&A thing yesterday and him also repeating the idea that he dosen't celebrate, it seems one of those things that's been repeated so often now that people believe it despite evidence to the contrary. To be honest I don't think he's reacting any differently to goals than he did last season, and was probably the same at Brentford. Yeah I agree, it's like some are inventing an argument to use it as a stick to beat him with. From my perspective Watkins seems quite chilled out when we score yet is always involved in congratulations. Another factor and you could see this when we scored on Sunday against the Barcodes all the players check themselves incase VAR intervenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grantholtgolazo Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 Love when these body language experts start coming out of the woodworks-wonder why they never cite body language to say something positive, hmm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 42 minutes ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Oh for fvcks sake. Seriously? I knew this would be the counter argument. Read the quote I responded to. The pictures literally prove he went over and celebrated with his teammates against Leeds. Don't believe your lying eyes. Just trust the heavily opinionated statements of a few posters who obviously have a bias against Ollie. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted February 15, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Pictures prove nothing. When the statement is that he didn’t celebrate with his teammates, and the pictures are of him celebrating with his teammates, then they kinda do. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Rightdm00 said: Just trust the heavily opinionated statements of a few posters who obviously have a bias against ??? THIS 100% … seems to be becoming more and more prevalent on here as well … Opinions stated as facts and then others jumping on the bandwagon with little to add to the debate … Edited February 15, 2022 by thabucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I do think that there is something in the lack of celebration argument. He does congratulate other players when they score and I do believe that he means it but his celebrations are very stunted. He doesn’t seem to celebrate with wild abandon anymore. I think that this is totally out of character for him and thus I wouldn’t be surprised if something was bothering him. Who knows what that is but I hope it’s not too serious. I would give him a couple of weeks off to get himself together or to at least give him some time out of the spotlight. He is easily the most suited villa striker to our style of play but his form is miles off. He seems to lack the effort and intensity of last season too. Give him time off and then hopefully he will come back refreshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 I think we've all had a crap time of things of late, hell, the whole world has! Maybe he's having a crap time of it too. What do you do? Keep playing so he might score and build his confidence or bench him and give him a break? Maybe we just cut him some slack. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 43 minutes ago, grantholtgolazo said: Love when these body language experts start coming out of the woodworks-wonder why they never cite body language to say something positive, hmm While I agree with your general point ish, people have been commenting on Coutinho’s body language as it’s suggests he’s loving it here compared to his body language at Barca which was more withdrawn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: Pictures prove nothing. Live, his body language was like it was a effort He just don't look like a player enjoying his football, watch him the next game, watch his none existent work rate. you can prove anything with facts... tut! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I do think that there is something in the lack of celebration argument. He does congratulate other players when they score and I do believe that he means it but his celebrations are very stunted. He doesn’t seem to celebrate with wild abandon anymore. I think that this is totally out of character for him and thus I wouldn’t be surprised if something was bothering him. Who knows what that is but I hope it’s not too serious. I would give him a couple of weeks off to get himself together or to at least give him some time out of the spotlight. He is easily the most suited villa striker to our style of play but his form is miles off. He seems to lack the effort and intensity of last season too. Give him time off and then hopefully he will come back refreshed. He has about 30% of his premier league goals cancelled out five minutes after scoring, so I can understand his lack of ecstasy when they go in. It's not like hed have had any goals disallowed retrospectively in the championship at Brentford for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Oh for fvcks sake. Seriously? I knew this would be the counter argument. Read the quote I responded to. The pictures literally prove he went over and celebrated with his teammates against Leeds. I'm not saying he don't celebrate, just seems a bit half hearted. Everyone likes the guy, we are just trying to justify his poor form and work rate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aston_Villan4 said: Sorry, but which goal are you referring to? Coutinhos? or was it Ramseys first goal? or maybe you meant Ramseys second? Yeah he looks really happy. Thanks for proving my point Edited February 15, 2022 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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