bickster Posted July 7 Moderator Share Posted July 7 14 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I see Macron FAFO’d then. No, not really. This is pretty much how he planned it, he was even prepared to let RN win if he had to, put them in power to absolutely feck it up. It’s all about him getting re-elected in 2027, this was always about showing the country that as much as they didn’t like him and his party, the other options were worse. He absolutely knew when he called the election that his party weren't going to win outright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 44 minutes ago, bickster said: No, not really. This is pretty much how he planned it, he was even prepared to let RN win if he had to, put them in power to absolutely feck it up. It’s all about him getting re-elected in 2027, this was always about showing the country that as much as they didn’t like him and his party, the other options were worse. He absolutely knew when he called the election that his party weren't going to win outright. I was sort of looking at it a bit wider than that. Disaffection with him lead to a poor showing in the euro elections so he bet the house on other parties fighting his battles for him. There are now Basque and Breton separatists in the assembly. If this is a centrist win, then yeah, well played Macron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 7 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7 (edited) They suck at ruling, too. Wish the worked remembered that. Maybe the French remembered that? The neo-fascists are not only flirters with the devil, but they can't do services, which increases human suffering in ways big and small. Yes, they're evil. And yes, they'll also be late getting your pension sent and roads maintained. Edited July 7 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, bickster said: No, not really. This is pretty much how he planned it, he was even prepared to let RN win if he had to, put them in power to absolutely feck it up. It’s all about him getting re-elected in 2027, this was always about showing the country that as much as they didn’t like him and his party, the other options were worse. He absolutely knew when he called the election that his party weren't going to win outright. Nah, Macron was absolutely not expecting the left-wing alliance to pull together as quickly as it did. He was expecting it to be between the centrists and the far right, with either him winning as the lesser of two evils or far right winning and then having to govern (for the reasons you outlined). A far-left win was definitely not the predicted outcome a few weeks back. It's probably a better outcome overall than the far-right winning, but the election pledges they were running on were even more mad economically than the ones the far right had. So France is in a bit of a pickle now, given the EU had already told them they needed to cut their deficit before the centrists lost power. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 4 hours ago, Panto_Villan said: Nah, Macron was absolutely not expecting the left-wing alliance to pull together as quickly as it did. He was expecting it to be between the centrists and the far right, with either him winning as the lesser of two evils or far right winning and then having to govern (for the reasons you outlined). A far-left win was definitely not the predicted outcome a few weeks back. It's probably a better outcome overall than the far-right winning, but the election pledges they were running on were even more mad economically than the ones the far right had. So France is in a bit of a pickle now, given the EU had already told them they needed to cut their deficit before the centrists lost power. The left block will strughle to agree a budget, let alone get it through parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, LondonLax said: The left block will strughle to agree a budget, let alone get it through parliament. They won’t even get to that stage, as they don’t have enough seats to form a government (nobody does, and no coalitions look easy). It’ll be very interesting to see what happens next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAVe80 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 C'est la lutte finale Groupons-nous, et demain L'Internationale Sera le genre humain ️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Leave it to me guys, I've been training for this day Où est la plage la plus proche? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted Friday at 14:06 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 14:06 Quote A tiny town in Italy has banned cricket. That’s right. Cricket. The far-right mayor of the town of Monfalcone claims she has done so to protect the culture of the area and that immigrants offer ‘nothing in return.’ Since the 1990s, many immigrants, most of them Bangladeshi Muslims, have flocked to Monfalcone in search of work. The town, home to the state-owned firm Fincantieri, is known for being a hub for building giant cruise ships. The firm is known for employing skilled foreign workers particularly from Bangladesh. As a result of the influx, almost a third of the town are foreigners. Which, according to Mayor Anna Maria Cisint, is a problem. "Our history is being erased. It’s like it doesn’t matter anymore. Everything is changing for the worse.” Cisint in 2022 won reelection on an anti-immigration platform. She is backed by Matteo Salvini’s League party, and by Brothers of Italy led by the Italian prime minister Giorgia Meloni. She claims she is on a mission to “protect” her town and defend Christian values. “They’ve given nothing to this city, to our community. Zero,” Cisint said. “They are free to go and play cricket anywhere else… outside of Monfalcone.” Cisint is taking things even further. She told the BBC she believes the Bangladeshi Muslims are “incompatible” with Italians. Cisint previously banned collective prayer at the town’s two Islamic centres. “People from the town started sending me shocking photos and videos which showed a huge number of people praying in the two Islamic centres: as many as 1,900 in just one building,” she claimed. Firstpost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted Friday at 14:21 Moderator Share Posted Friday at 14:21 4 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Firstpost I presume this RW Mayor doesn't know the history of his town. Holy Roman Empire - Venetian - French - Venetian - Hapsburg Empire - Venetian - French - Austrian - Italian - Astro Hungarian - Italian again. It's been Italian barely over 100 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted Friday at 14:31 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 14:31 9 minutes ago, bickster said: I presume this RW Mayor doesn't know the history of his town. Holy Roman Empire - Venetian - French - Venetian - Hapsburg Empire - Venetian - French - Austrian - Italian - Astro Hungarian - Italian again. It's been Italian barely over 100 years All 'white European Christians', though, innit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted Friday at 14:41 Share Posted Friday at 14:41 19 minutes ago, bickster said: I presume this RW Mayor doesn't know the history of his town. Holy Roman Empire - Venetian - French - Venetian - Hapsburg Empire - Venetian - French - Austrian - Italian - Astro Hungarian - Italian again. It's been Italian barely over 100 years But what were they like at bowling spin? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted Friday at 14:45 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 14:45 Must admit, I can sympathise with wanting to ban cricket. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted Friday at 14:48 Moderator Share Posted Friday at 14:48 6 minutes ago, LondonLax said: But what were they like at bowling spin? Well the Venetians were good at spin but the French not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted Friday at 17:07 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 17:07 Surprised this thread didn't get bumped after the Thuringia local election results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted Friday at 17:37 Share Posted Friday at 17:37 3 hours ago, bickster said: I presume this RW Mayor doesn't know the history of his town. Holy Roman Empire - Venetian - French - Venetian - Hapsburg Empire - Venetian - French - Austrian - Italian - Astro Hungarian - Italian again. It's been Italian barely over 100 years I heard the Astro Hungarian empire was far out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted Friday at 17:39 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 17:39 2 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I heard the Astro Hungarian empire was far out It's the Australo-Hungarian Empire: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted Friday at 17:51 Share Posted Friday at 17:51 13 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: I heard the Astro Hungarian empire was far out Kicked the Ottomoons out in the 18th Century. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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