Marka Ragnos Posted February 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2023 Down to the far right, the unthinkable, in Israel, is no longer. From Haaretz ... Quote Over the last few days I’ve found myself in conversations I never imagined I’d ever have. Since these are conversations with Israelis, everything is couched in at least semi-humorous tones, but the topic is deadly serious: the various ways a civil war might suddenly break out, and who would win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 **** sad days we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Interesting little thread to catch up on. After reading a few pages with the oft-heard thing about the "league tables of dictatory badness", I feel compelled to say it's the authoritarianism that I fear. which team did better or worse is always such an unedifying distraction from the problem with all of them, namely ideology at gunpoint. Meatheads are always going to think meathead things. I doubt we can eradicate racism or religeous zealotry. But we are able to protect our governmental system from authoritarian principles, although my own views (as I'm sure many of you would guess) is that we've stopped doing so. But yeah. One of the worst isms is authoritarianism. Red/Blue/Purple/Whatever it's all horrific. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Javier Milei just won the Argentinian president election. Can't say I know much or any about Argentinian politics but he doesn't sound great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, sne said: Javier Milei just won the Argentinian president election. Can't say I know much or any about Argentinian politics but he doesn't sound great. No doubt he'll start ramping up rhetoric on The Falklands. Like all right wing shit, Argentinians will have lapped up his bullshit about how he'll shake it up and make their lives better whilst making their lives actually worse. Depends on if they are able to vote him back out when they realise that or if he hangs on in a corrupt way after time in power. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: No doubt he'll start ramping up rhetoric on The Falklands. Like all right wing shit, Argentinians will have lapped up his bullshit about how he'll shake it up and make their lives better whilst making their lives actually worse. Depends on if they are able to vote him back out when they realise that or if he hangs on in a corrupt way after time in power. He looks an utter lunatic. You'd have thought they might have learnt from Brazil and their decision to vote in a far right nutter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 He's an anarcho-capitalist libertarian with some distinct conservative right tendencies, and he's also mad as a box of frogs. If he's able to implement the kind of policies he's likely to want to, Argentina will be on fire in short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, sne said: Javier Milei just won the Argentinian president election. Can't say I know much or any about Argentinian politics but he doesn't sound great. if the previous left wing government was so good then they would still be in power. Apparently one of his key pledges was he wants them to use the IS dollar as currency Also when people say global far right, i dont think its accurate at all. There is a global left wing too. I want a global centralist wing which we dont have Edited November 20, 2023 by Demitri_C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 hours ago, sidcow said: No doubt he'll start ramping up rhetoric on The Falklands. They haven't really upgraded their military since the Falklands either, their airforce is held together with Elastoplast, their navy is worth more in scrap value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, bickster said: They haven't really upgraded their military since the Falklands either, their airforce is held together with Elastoplast, their navy is worth more in scrap value So rather like ours then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 He's been pretty pragmatic with regards to the Falklands. Obviously that always changes in Argentina when there's problems at home, but he's supposedly on record as saying if Argentina wants the Falklands it'll have to come from diplomacy and negotiation over an extended period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Chindie said: He's an anarcho-capitalist libertarian with some distinct conservative right tendencies, and he's also mad as a box of frogs. So, the US candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So, the US candidate? More of a Liz Truss type candidate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, bickster said: More of a Liz Truss type candidate Glad we agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: if the previous left wing government was so good then they would still be in power. Apparently one of his key pledges was he wants them to use the IS dollar as currency Also when people say global far right, i dont think its accurate at all. There is a global left wing too. I want a global centralist wing which we dont have I am not an expert on Argentinian politics, but to answer your question in bold. The government elected in the recent elections is centre left. Its a coalition government, but still broadly left wing. The President Elect is not, the incumbent did not run this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: I want a global centralist wing which we dont have Have a think about that 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So, the US candidate? I get the gag but his positions would actually not be terribly well received by the US at large (there's certainly some figures in the US establishment that'll be tossing themselves off at the thought of what this guy wants, but not the system as a whole) and the country would be on fire quite quickly as result, and lots of debts and lots of investments will be headed vertically down within hours of being announced. Even the threat of the guy had the markets start to react - that's not what most of America wants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blandy Posted November 20, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, bickster said: Have a think about that 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I was picturing Thunderbird 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, blandy said: Very clever. Except they would be better described as upper, lower and centre wings. Left and right are still left and right in all cases. Trying to think of a possible (canard?) configuration that might be described as centre wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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