Zatman Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 26 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Someone proven in one of Europes top leagues. Like Suso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: Like Suso No I said proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, zab6359 said: No I said proven Well to be fair he is proven in the Champions League which is considered a European top league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muriel Posted July 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 58 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: Or Brentford's DOF. People who keep saying that we should just take people in from Brentford does not understand the way Brentford are running a business. The reason Brentford is so great is due to the way they analyse data, which is mainly based on numbers from the owners betting company. You can't just take individuals in from Brentford and expect them to be able to find talent unless you also totally revamp the way our entire football club works and at the same time gets access to some good data, which I don't think Brentford is willing to share. I personally believe that the days of just looking at players in games are over, which both Brentford's and Liverpool's successes are great examples at (Midtjylland in Denmark as well). However, it is not as simple as just hiring one guy from Brentford. They don't have a "miracle man" (maybe the owner), but they do have a "miracle organization". Edited July 31, 2020 by Muriel 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, zab6359 said: No I said proven Suso has a league title and some European trophies under his belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) I also think Lange will be using his infrastructure in the British transfer market mainly. There are a lot of talented players in the lower leagues that end up making it to top level and national football. I would go as far as he has been probably assessing our squad and players for the past month and is further ahead in recruiting young talent than we are aware of. The academy players must be delighted to know they will be under good guidance. As they may all have individual road maps.  Edited July 31, 2020 by Reivax_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Suso has a league title and some European trophies under his belt Yeah Simeone really turned that team around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, zab6359 said: Yeah Simeone really turned that team around Valencia he won league too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I went and had a look on the wolves forum and if that doesnt provide some laugh at some of the posts then nothing will: https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/page-12, have to start on some of the earlier pages as it gets more entertaining as you go on through. I mainly wanted to see what they thought of Johan Lange but sadly there was not much apart from this post from a fan, it maybe the only decent post in there, one of a few at least lol: His football knowledge is quite good. I doubt his abilities when it comes to scouting and networking though. I know Copenhagen prides themselves in having successfully bought and sold on lots of players with profits in recent years, which is through. However there has also been a bit of hit and miss in some windowsAlso it's difficult to see how good he actually is at building a solid structure as Solbakken has been the main man at Copenhagen for years.So it's a huge unknown for me. He knows his football, but does he have the network or the organisational skills for a club the size of Villa? Also, there's a massive difference between the pool of players Copenhagen looks at and those a team looking to establish themselves in the PL would look at.I also see some Villa fans think he's very good at finding young players. That's simply not true. He uses to be a youth coach and a good one by the way, but Copenhagen mainly sought to buy players for their first team, leaving development to other teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Zatman said: Valencia he won league too Got the sack too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_82 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave-R said: I went and had a look on the wolves forum and if that doesnt provide some laugh at some of the posts then nothing will: https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/page-12, have to start on some of the earlier pages as it gets more entertaining as you go on through. I mainly wanted to see what they thought of Johan Lange but sadly there was not much apart from this post from a fan, it maybe the only decent post in there, one of a few at least lol: His football knowledge is quite good. I doubt his abilities when it comes to scouting and networking though. I know Copenhagen prides themselves in having successfully bought and sold on lots of players with profits in recent years, which is through. However there has also been a bit of hit and miss in some windowsAlso it's difficult to see how good he actually is at building a solid structure as Solbakken has been the main man at Copenhagen for years.So it's a huge unknown for me. He knows his football, but does he have the network or the organisational skills for a club the size of Villa? Also, there's a massive difference between the pool of players Copenhagen looks at and those a team looking to establish themselves in the PL would look at.I also see some Villa fans think he's very good at finding young players. That's simply not true. He uses to be a youth coach and a good one by the way, but Copenhagen mainly sought to buy players for their first team, leaving development to other teams Comical that both Wolves and Blues have forum pages about Villa with 100's of comments on...........Obsessed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BG_Villa_Fan Posted July 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, cb_82 said: Comical that both Wolves and Blues have forum pages about Villa with 100's of comments on...........Obsessed Errr our forum has 124 pages on Wolves and 995 on SHA. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BG_Villa_Fan said: Errr our forum has 124 pages on Wolves and 995 on SHA. Both started in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Both started in 2012 So we've been obsessed for almost a decade  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 That Wolves forum has five threads on us on the first page, one of them 33 pages long that was started in August of last year, on there it's forty posts to page, so on this forum it would be 66 pages long, go back 66 pages on the Wolves thread on this site and it will take you a lot further back than August of last year, and we've only got one thread for them, they have several different ones for us. I wouldn't take much notice of what they have to say about Lange, one he had a completely different role with them, and they'll put a negative spin on him as it's us he's joined and they hate us to an obssession. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Muriel said: People who keep saying that we should just take people in from Brentford does not understand the way Brentford are running a business. The reason Brentford is so great is due to the way they analyse data, which is mainly based on numbers from the owners betting company. You can't just take individuals in from Brentford and expect them to be able to find talent unless you also totally revamp the way our entire football club works and at the same time gets access to some good data, which I don't think Brentford is willing to share. I personally believe that the days of just looking at players in games are over, which both Brentford's and Liverpool's successes are great examples at (Midtjylland in Denmark as well). However, it is not as simple as just hiring one guy from Brentford. They don't have a "miracle man" (maybe the owner), but they do have a "miracle organization". Exactly. Brentford have access also to Matthew Benham's smartodds company for data and analysis. That's a pretty big company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7392craig Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dave-R said: I went and had a look on the wolves forum and if that doesnt provide some laugh at some of the posts then nothing will: https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/aston-villa-rip.285230/page-12, have to start on some of the earlier pages as it gets more entertaining as you go on through. I mainly wanted to see what they thought of Johan Lange but sadly there was not much apart from this post from a fan, it maybe the only decent post in there, one of a few at least lol: His football knowledge is quite good. I doubt his abilities when it comes to scouting and networking though. I know Copenhagen prides themselves in having successfully bought and sold on lots of players with profits in recent years, which is through. However there has also been a bit of hit and miss in some windowsAlso it's difficult to see how good he actually is at building a solid structure as Solbakken has been the main man at Copenhagen for years.So it's a huge unknown for me. He knows his football, but does he have the network or the organisational skills for a club the size of Villa? Also, there's a massive difference between the pool of players Copenhagen looks at and those a team looking to establish themselves in the PL would look at.I also see some Villa fans think he's very good at finding young players. That's simply not true. He uses to be a youth coach and a good one by the way, but Copenhagen mainly sought to buy players for their first team, leaving development to other teams I had a look but had to give up. I genuinely couldnât understand the language a lot of them were using. Finally, I didnât get the reference to chicken noodle soup games so I came back to VT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Had a look on a Copenhagen forum last night and they didn't seem to be bothered about losing him, apparently they've made a few disappointing purchases of late and it seems they don't know what it actually is that he does, apparently it's someone else who spots the players, FC Copenhagen even said on their website that he wouldn't be replaced as they think they can continue doing what they're doing without him. I guess we just have to judge him based on what he does with us, will be different circumstances really, there he was very limited in terms of who he was able to sign, and his strategy to attract players was to tell them that if they do well they can get a move to one of the big five leagues, here he will be able to sign a different class of player and they will already be coming to a club playing in one of the 'big five' leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Wonder if Wolves will stop looking over at us for everything we do now Albion are up. Hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digavilla Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Am little worried about his appointment, have searched all over the net to find some of his successful signings or accomplishment , only a few unknown players sold for profit & the profile & type of those players are quite underwhelming. I am also not sure someone from the Danish league ,  can take us forward ... in this modern era football of the Wolvesâs Mengdes / Leedâs  Bielsa or even Brentford etc , itâs hard to be excited about Lange .. letâs hope our owners knows things we donât  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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