abdulaziz1 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'm absolutely relieved we stayed up and looking forward to next season. I will celebrate when we win things. Not for staying up. Call me a bad fan I don't care. Have you celebrated when we won the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: I'm absolutely relieved we stayed up and looking forward to next season. I will celebrate when we win things. Not for staying up. Call me a bad fan I don't care. I’d never call you a bad fan mate because I don’t even consider you as a fan I actually understand where you are coming from though. But sometimes you have to have a bit of perspective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Anyone seen this? This is the Premier League without VAR, i.e. if changed decisions had not be retrospectively implemented. Not sure where it would be if those incorrect decisions upheld (such as Fernandes penalty) had not been incorrectly applied? Premier League table without VAR 1st - Liverpool - 94 points - Five points fewer 2nd - Manchester City - 87 points - Six points more 3rd - Chelsea - 67 points - One point more 4th - Man Utd - 66 points - No difference 5th - Wolves - 66 points - Seven points more 6th - Leicester - 62 points - No difference 7th - Sheffield United - 58 points - Four points more 8th - Arsenal - 56 points - No difference 9th - Burnley - 54 points - No difference 10th - Tottenham - 52 points - Seven points fewer 11th - Everton - 50 points - One point more 12th - Southampton - 49 points - Three points fewer 13th - West Ham - 45 points - Six points more 14th - Newcastle - 44 points - No difference 15th - Crystal Palace - 41 points - Two points fewer 16th - Aston Villa - 37 points - Two points more 17th - Brighton - 36 points - Five points fewer 18th - Watford - 34 points - No difference 19th - Bournemouth - 33 points - One point fewer 20th - Norwich - 23 points - Two points more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I can’t believe Bournemouth managed 5 years in top flight finishing as high as 9th! Pretty incredible achievement for such a small club. Credit to Eddie Howe. They also spent a hell of a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, thunderball said: Anyone seen this? This is the Premier League without VAR, i.e. if changed decisions had not be retrospectively implemented. Not sure where it would be if those incorrect decisions upheld (such as Fernandes penalty) had not been incorrectly applied? Premier League table without VAR 1st - Liverpool - 94 points - Five points fewer 2nd - Manchester City - 87 points - Six points more 3rd - Chelsea - 67 points - One point more 4th - Man Utd - 66 points - No difference 5th - Wolves - 66 points - Seven points more 6th - Leicester - 62 points - No difference 7th - Sheffield United - 58 points - Four points more 8th - Arsenal - 56 points - No difference 9th - Burnley - 54 points - No difference 10th - Tottenham - 52 points - Seven points fewer 11th - Everton - 50 points - One point more 12th - Southampton - 49 points - Three points fewer 13th - West Ham - 45 points - Six points more 14th - Newcastle - 44 points - No difference 15th - Crystal Palace - 41 points - Two points fewer 16th - Aston Villa - 37 points - Two points more 17th - Brighton - 36 points - Five points fewer 18th - Watford - 34 points - No difference 19th - Bournemouth - 33 points - One point fewer 20th - Norwich - 23 points - Two points more at least it didn't change who got relegated... but definitely would be interesting to see how the incorrect VAR decisions would have impacted things. Sadly, I dont recall a lot of the obvious errors we had getting much attention, apart from the Man Utd one, so not sure how that could be compiled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) Ignore this post, my maths is poor. Edited July 27, 2020 by wilko154 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, Tom13 said: They also spent a hell of a lot of money I heard this as well but have they relative to the general spend in the Premier League? Plus they probably have to pay over the odds on wages I bet to persuade players to join them. I mean what top player wants to play for Bournemouth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, useless said: I think there was an element of truth to what Roy Keane was saying, he just didn't express it very well and didn't take into account the circumstances, would have been better if he said something like he could understand the celebrations but a club like Aston Villa shouldn't be celebrating relegation and need to do better in the future. The good thing to know is that despite the celebrations the players themselves as stated by Hourihane after the game know that it wasn't good enough and want to do better next season, so it's not as if they're going away thinking they've done a brilliant job or anything like that... In the full version of the quote Roy Keane goes on to say that we had a massive turnover of players and that he can understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rolta said: In the full version of the quote Roy Keane goes on to say that we had a massive turnover of players and that he can understand it. I watched the full video and Keane was just being his miserable act but he was praising Smith and just said a bit over the top. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) No doubt been posted before but deserves another post! The future King should post on here! Edited July 27, 2020 by Xela 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Xela said: No doubt been posted before but deserves another post! The future King should post on here! and the negative comments from the same clubs underneath it. Yesterday has absolutely riled some Internet warriors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 OMG, I'm soooooooo bored, how long do I have to wait until I can start moaning again about how bad we're playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 whatever your preferred tipple gentlemen........ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I think the celebration is justified, we are allowed some joy especially spending 3 years down there recently. I viewed it as like a mini tournament post-lockdown that we won. Especially as we were 7 points adrift with 5 to play, and coupled with the about turn since Arsenal, it was cup/knockout type football. We triumphed over established, more experienced teams and in the face of serious key injuries. When it comes down to it we have some bottle and we’ve shown that over the past 18 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Who are these people that get to decide what you can and cannot celebrate? Surely by these rules the majority of football fans may as well not bother. Seems ridiculous to care what others think, were villa fans, we achieved something big when many had written us off. Enjoy it, celebrate it and stop caring what miserable pundits or faceless people on the internet think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 There's a huge gap between the Premier League and the Championship. We started this season with the bare bones of an incredibly average Championship side. After promotion you have to stay up, consolidate and give yourself a chance to grow. We were adrift and overall, all things considered, pulled off a massive achievement. It's all relative. What an important achievement at that. There's so much to be happy about. It's not like teams get promoted and go on to challenge at the top of the league. What the actual ****. Seriously! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaFaninLondon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 It was a great achievement to stay up and I myself was extremely happy, but a club our size should celebrate when we actually win something or finish in the top 4, not by staying up by the skin of our teeth. But I can see why people did, given how we looked doomed for the last 2 or 3 weeks of the season and everyone had written us off. It was a minor miracle we survived really, given where we were, but we have to push on to greater things now we’ve carved out this opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom_Wren Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Just got in off the lash, started at US eastern time 10am, watched the game, told the wife she wouldn't see me for a bit, got smashed, horse voice from chanting all day and night. Having a modelo now to chill out. What a day/night, thought wed done ourselves with the deflected goal in typical villa fashion! wore my shirt out and met two women from Erdington in the pub! in Rock Hill, SC!! If carslberg did days....... THE VILLA BOYS FROM ASTON!!!!!! My old man a HEITS was looking down yesterday lads. ONE LOVE!!!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, MrBlack said: at least it didn't change who got relegated... but definitely would be interesting to see how the incorrect VAR decisions would have impacted things. Sadly, I dont recall a lot of the obvious errors we had getting much attention, apart from the Man Utd one, so not sure how that could be compiled. I think it's all nonsense We get the mcginn penalty on day 1 vs spurs and go on to beat them and then how the whole season actually played out can go in the bin, certain results at certain times and the ripple effect, the Palace goal being chalked off, the 3 decisions vs arsenal... They were before our really shit run, pick up points and that run doesn't happen I am enjoying the number of fans from other clubs saying we stayed up thanks to goal line technology not working (and worryingly some decent pundits and writers) as if to suggest that Sheffield utd scoring in the 42nd minute of that game would result in everything else that came afterwards would have played out exactly the same... Some even suggesting Bournemouth should seek legal action... "can you prove villa would have lost that game 1-0 if that goal had been given?"... "the defence rests its case" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 hours ago, hippo said: Would have Bournemouth as quite clear favourites to bounce back. Given the financial situation it wouldn't surprise me if Bournemouth had an absolute fire sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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