Tumblerseven Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) This is probably the most left wing candidate democratic party put in elections ( policy and promises based) If biden loses democratic party will go more right. Because no one want to be a loser and if left doesnt vote maybe right will. Imo it would be absolutely tragic if trump gets 4 more years. Country will suffer democratic party will suffer and left will be irrelevant for decades. I hope trump will win it will be fun to watch that mess Edited August 13, 2020 by Tumblerseven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Tumblerseven said: This is probably the most left wing candidate democratic party put in elections ( policy and promises based) I looked at that sentence and didn't really believe it to be true but I did then go and look at what Biden currently stabds for in this election and I think you are correct He's nowhere near full on marxist but he is surprisingly progressive on a number of issues and I think he probably is as you say more left wing than many or any that went before him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjmooney Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Tumblerseven said: I hope trump will win it will be fun to watch that mess I hope you're joking. I have American friends and I wouldn't wish that nightmare on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, bickster said: I looked at that sentence and didn't really believe it to be true but I did then go and look at what Biden currently stabds for in this election and I think you are correct He's nowhere near full on marxist but he is surprisingly progressive on a number of issues and I think he probably is as you say more left wing than many or any that went before him Biden is as neo-liberal as they come. Every major piece of legislation that has created the current economic order over the past 40 years has his hands on it. It was one thing with Obama, who could speak in a truly impressive manner nad had a meager track record, but how anyone could be fooled by someone with the track record of Biden is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 https://jo20.com Are you going to Biden or Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, villakram said: Biden is as neo-liberal as they come. Every major piece of legislation that has created the current economic order over the past 40 years has his hands on it. It was one thing with Obama, who could speak in a truly impressive manner nad had a meager track record, but how anyone could be fooled by someone with the track record of Biden is beyond me. The past 40 years is irrelevant to what the poster I was quoting said and then subsequently what I said. Neither of us was talking about his track record, purely what he's standing for now What you say is true... but not relevant to the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, villakram said: Biden is as neo-liberal as they come. Every major piece of legislation that has created the current economic order over the past 40 years has his hands on it. It was one thing with Obama, who could speak in a truly impressive manner nad had a meager track record, but how anyone could be fooled by someone with the track record of Biden is beyond me. Maybe they're not being fooled. Maybe they're just weighing up neoliberalism versus fascism and thinking that four years of bog-standard crony-capitalism, while imperfect, is still better than whatever incoherent, simple-minded mess this is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Maybe they're not being fooled. Maybe they're just weighing up neoliberalism versus fascism and thinking that four years of bog-standard crony-capitalism, while imperfect, is still better than whatever incoherent, simple-minded mess this is. I think if I was an American voter, I'd just want to see an actual politician in the WH. Yes, I'd assume that they were some combination of dishonest/immoral/corrupt, but I realised long ago that politicians are usually all that by default. But at least they should have sufficient education, intelligence, experience and pragmatism to be able to do the job on a day to day basis without making the country a laughing stock in the eyes of the world. Frankly, almost anyone but Trump would do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maqroll Posted August 15, 2020 Author Share Posted August 15, 2020 Openly suppressing the vote now. There is a nightmare coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioVilla Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Yeah, I'm actually just going to vote in person, to be honest. I want to mail in, but truthfully I cannot trust that my vote would be counted if I did mail in vote. So I'll mask, glove, and hazmat suit up and go vote in person. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 It goes beyond politics. This man is an enemy of democracy, an enemy of America, and when this is all over, he should be facing prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 15, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Davkaus said: It goes beyond politics. This man is an enemy of democracy, an enemy of America, and when this is all over, he should be facing prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Time to act. Same on this side of the Atlantic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2020 What they are doing with the United States Postal Service is pure robbery in plain sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, TheAuthority said: What they are doing with the United States Postal Service is pure robbery in plain sight. What's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: What's going on? Not sure, I just repeat what Taylor Swift says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2020 "Nearly half of all the mail in the world!" Veterans medicine, oh and mail in ballots. Guess what, Trump is trying to DESTROY it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted August 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2020 Read the whole thread but this has been coming for a while. Pre-funding it's pension and healthcare for 75 years. Free markets hahahahahahqagaghasha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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