Zatman Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 French Sports Minister saying sports will not be a priority in French society at this time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Some clubs are gonna fold because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Clubs will fold and will be horrible but we have seen in England and Italy before some clubs rising from the ashes. They wont die completely but they will not be at same level. I do hope this will bring a humbleness to the game when its restarted from administrators and fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Zatman said: French Sports Minister saying sports will not be a priority in French society at this time And that is exactly how it should be here too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Football is doing the same thing as every other industry is doing The difference is the media is telling you about the meetings that football clubs are having and not about the one car manufacturers have Hard to blame that on football 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Sports bible just released this on FB (can’t link to it sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, Genie said: Sports bible just released this on FB (can’t link to it sorry) Somebody said the sporting merit for UEFA was the previous 5 years European history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Basing the final table on points per game would be just as unfair to us as it would it would basing the final standings on the table as it stands now, because we're still disadvantaged by the fact that we've played a game less than everyone else and so have had less opportunities to improve our points per game average. On the flipside to that Sheffield United would gain an unfair advantage over Wolves because they've played a game less and so have had less opportunities to drop points. Basically PPG isn't fair unless everyone has played the same amount of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 the danger with PPG is that we are the only team to lose out, wolves and Sheffield flip 6th and 7th which in the grand scheme of things isn't inconsequential (unless man city don't win their CL place back - they will) my worry is that its our voice, plus Norwich clutching at straws, Bournemouth and sheffiled utd, that's not the strongest line up of clubs, we'd need someone like man utd being convinced they can get 4th and arsenal chasing 7th (if they beat city they can on GD) to throw their weight behind the complaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) How they decide to end the table now would set a precedent and decide how the table is ended in future seasons should we find ourselves in another situation when the season is disrupted again by this virus or something else, which I don't think is being ruled out. So all clubs have to be very aware that when deciding what to do this time around that whilst it might not affect them negatively now it could do in the future. Edited April 23, 2020 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I can’t think of a much fairer way than PPG tbh, given that around 75% of the season is complete it seems like a reasonable way to settle it if games can’t be completed. There will of course be winners and losers but I can’t think of a better way. Ideally this would already be written into the rules, I’m amazed there isn’t a scenario for settling a season that could not be competed already that is part of the t&c of being a member of the PL/EFL etc Problem is trying to get it approved by the clubs now will be impossible. Then if the decision is made above them then the clubs which loss out (like us) will launch legal challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 23, 2020 Moderator Share Posted April 23, 2020 I think if they go PPG they'll have a compensatory package of some sort set up in advance to ensure any problems go away - relegation with an easing of FFP or enhanced parachute payments, something along those lines - some sort of financial compensation for teams missing out on european qualification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Genie said: I can’t think of a much fairer way than PPG tbh, given that around 75% of the season is complete it seems like a reasonable way to settle it if games can’t be completed. There will of course be winners and losers but I can’t think of a better way. Ideally this would already be written into the rules, I’m amazed there isn’t a scenario for settling a season that could not be competed already that is part of the t&c of being a member of the PL/EFL etc Problem is trying to get it approved by the clubs now will be impossible. Then if the decision is made above them then the clubs which loss out (like us) will launch legal challenges. I can, void it. That’s fairer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 La Liga proposal will test players daily to help get the league back running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 PPG isn't fair in any way, not only because not everyone has played the same amount of games, but also because not everyone has played the same teams or played the same amount of games home and away, it's no fairer than just declaring the table as it stands now as the final table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, useless said: PPG isn't fair in any way, not only because not everyone has played the same amount of games, but also because not everyone has played the same teams or played the same amount of games home and away, it's no fairer than just declaring the table as it stands now as the final table. It’s pretty much the same thing, give or take a tiny bit. Theres no perfect solution, the least worst option needs to be found. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 How the hell can you do PPG If we have played one less game? Makes absolutely no sense. Relegating any sode with ten games left is just pure stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: I think if they go PPG they'll have a compensatory package of some sort set up in advance to ensure any problems go away - relegation with an easing of FFP or enhanced parachute payments, something along those lines - some sort of financial compensation for teams missing out on european qualification. Yes, the relegated clubs will argue they could have survived so (much) bigger parachute payments might ease the pain there. Next challenge will be CL qualification. It’ll come down to paying off the “losers”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Demitri_C said: How the hell can you do PPG If we have played one less game? Makes absolutely no sense. Relegating any sode with ten games left is just pure stupidity. It’s in the name, per game. It factors in the varying amount of games teams have played. Fortunately everybody in the PL has played 28 or 29 games so it’s minimal impact anyway. Villa have 0.89 points per game. If we’d have gotten our 29th game in we’d probably have lost (given our form over the other 28) to Chelsea reducing us to 0.86 PPG. It could be argued playing a game less has helped us out in our PPG tally, although the outcome is the same. 4 of our next 5 games are Chelsea, Wolves, Liverpool and Man United so we could have even less points had we payed those sides a second time earlier in the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 Points per game goes out the window as we have also played 2 less home games than others. Our game in hand is at home where our strongest form is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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