Davkaus Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 7 hours ago, T-Dog said: Anyway, **** him, he'll be at Solihull Moors in 5 years Genuinely ludicrous take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 One of the unlucky 100 not to make their first match day squad. Probably be sold for a profit soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 19 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19 14 hours ago, VillaAlex said: One of the unlucky 100 not to make their first match day squad. Probably be sold for a profit soon. He will get 5 years of loans first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkiller1981 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Apparently his massive wages are stopping Chelsea selling him. Isn’t he on about £120k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Maresca seemed to say he should go on loan as needs to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Can we just have a massive list of every player the past 5 years that should not have turned us down or left us? Ah. Smug mode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Carney was poorly advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted August 19 Popular Post Share Posted August 19 5 minutes ago, osmark86 said: Carney was poorly advised. Nice one Jesus. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 6 minutes ago, osmark86 said: Carney was poorly advised. Maybe in hindsight, but isn't he a Chelsea fan and got offered a huge pay rise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 3 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Nice one Jesus. Blessed be child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 minutes ago, Daveburnside said: Maybe in hindsight, but isn't he a Chelsea fan and got offered a huge pay rise? Sure, but you need game time to develop and secure a long playing career. He was shortsighted imo. Then again, always easy when judging the past with the outcome in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 minute ago, osmark86 said: Sure, but you need game time to develop and secure a long playing career. He was shortsighted imo. Then again, always easy when judging the past with the outcome in hand. Agreed, and God knows what Chelsea are saying to these players to convince them to sign. There must be some "guarantees" of playing time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, osmark86 said: Carney was poorly advised. Meh, He got a five year deal on £100K+ a week. That's over £25m guaranteed for him even if he never kicked a ball again. Impossible to turn that down when there was no certainty he was going to make it as a pro footballer. If he was offered similar by us then you could say he was badly advised but he probably wanted to move back to London too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) He was particularly unfortunate that he was in the team, getting game time and playing well before getting a nasty injury. They signed another 50 players so he’s well down the pecking order now. Edited August 19 by Genie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 10 minutes ago, villa89 said: Meh, He got a five year deal on £100K+ a week. That's over £25m guaranteed for him even if he never kicked a ball again. Impossible to turn that down when there was no certainty he was going to make it as a pro footballer. If he was offered similar by us then you could say he was badly advised but he probably wanted to move back to London too. A sensible take. Its incredible that we have developed a system whereby we will, in the near future, if not already, have a high number of 40+ year old millionaires kicking round this country who never really made it as a successful footballer. People who been given borderline generational wealth based on the potential they once had as a footballer in their mid to late teens. Strange world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Daveburnside said: Maybe in hindsight, but isn't he a Chelsea fan and got offered a huge pay rise? Not in hindsight, it was obvious as all hell to see at the time. He was itching for a move every summer from the age of 16 or 17, his parents and agent(s*) were pushing him too much. He has all the attributes. I hope he can become the player he should have, reports he's had to completely change the way we runs to protect his legs from further injury though is not a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 32 minutes ago, villa89 said: Meh, He got a five year deal on £100K+ a week. That's over £25m guaranteed for him even if he never kicked a ball again. Impossible to turn that down when there was no certainty he was going to make it as a pro footballer. If he was offered similar by us then you could say he was badly advised but he probably wanted to move back to London too. Though yeah, good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyClarke Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) Frustrating one with Carney. A lot of rubbish is spouted on here about his ability, that is never in question. His attitude, the advice he received and his decisions are very dubious and I'm sure at least part of him reflects on that, a bit easier to swallow as a millionaire footballer though. To get it straight, he was absolutely top drawer throughout his teenage years and I fully expect he will still have a good career and is still capable of going to the top. His Villa decisions have cost him game time and now he is playing catch up and being overtaken by younger players. Edited August 19 by AndyClarke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 58 minutes ago, villa89 said: Meh, He got a five year deal on £100K+ a week. That's over £25m guaranteed for him even if he never kicked a ball again. Impossible to turn that down when there was no certainty he was going to make it as a pro footballer. If he was offered similar by us then you could say he was badly advised but he probably wanted to move back to London too. He wanted the Chelsea tracksuit, wasn't about money as we offered him a big number too, wasn't about playing time as we could offer him more, it was simply the ability to say he's a Chelsea player Can't complain too much as I can understand why, Chelsea are a huge club, the biggest English club for his age group, hes not the first footballer who tries to run before he can walk and he won't be the last Palace is a good move for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 31 minutes ago, AndyClarke said: Frustrating one with Carney. A lot of rubbish is spouted on here about his ability, that is never in question. His attitude, the advice he received and his decisions are very dubious and I'm sure at least part of him reflects on that, a bit easier to swallow as a millionaire footballer though. His agents / team etc have cost him big time. He would be in Morgan Rodgers position now, playing an attacking midfield free role in a Champions League team. Due to Ramsey and Buendia's injuries he'd have started probably 20-25 games last season. Let this be a lesson to our younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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