PaulC Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Working under Gerrard and Lampard would make any talent go backwards Which is strange given they played in the same position. Jacob Ramsey didn't do so badly under Gerrard though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thug Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) On 22/05/2023 at 13:21, bobzy said: The bit in bold is utterly bizarre. He was an 18 year old kid (edit: He was actually 17, too!) being given tiny amounts of minutes - what did you expect? A few goals and assists? From memory, he essentially didn't look out of place which is what it's all about. After all, he's a kid. Secondly, I just have no idea how you can claim this? You've basically not watched him outside of sporadic minutes in our first team, how do you know what he's about as a player? Why would Chelsea part with £20m to get him in his last year of a contract? The chances of "making it" in the Premier League for youngsters is so, so, so incredibly slim that you're completely correct with your first sentence. However, unless Chukwuemeka wastes his time entirely (I have no idea what he's doing at Chelsea now, does he play U21's or anything?) he's got every chance of being one of the few who do. Isn’t that the entire point being made though? He had shown nothing in the senior game to suggest he was worth the price tag or the contract that he was demanding? He was an 18yr rookie old demanding the wages of a seasoned international. Somehow He managed to get them, I applaud his agent, and I applaud whoever managed to get £20m for him, and I laugh at Chelsea. He is MILES off starting for a competitive champions league team. I sincerely hope his career crashes and burns - not out of spite, but for the good of the game. Ultimately it is us (fans) that pay for his, and any other youth prospect with decent prospects £100k a week. Edited May 23, 2023 by Thug 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Thug said: Isn’t that the entire point being made though? He had shown nothing in the senior game to suggest he was worth the price tag or the contract that he was demanding? He was an 18yr rookie old demanding the wages of a seasoned international. Somehow He managed to get them, I applaud his agent, and I applaud whoever managed to get £20m for him, and I laugh at Chelsea. He is MILES off starting for a competitive champions league team. I sincerely hope his career crashes and burns - not out of spite, but for the good of the game. Ultimately it is us (fans) that pay for his, and any other youth prospect with decent prospects £100k a week. I'm not really aware of anything he was demanding other than more playing time to be honest. Where did he demand wage of a seasoned international? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bobzy said: I'm not really aware of anything he was demanding other than more playing time to be honest. Where did he demand wage of a seasoned international? I think at the time it was reported that he would not sign for us unless we paid £100k per week. As with all things that are reported in the press, you have to take it all with a pinch of salt, but for example: https://www.birminghamworld.uk/sport/football/aston-villa/aston-villa-carney-chukwuemekas-huge-wage-demands-revealed-3778558 “The latest reports claim the midfielder has now rejected Villa’s contract offer amid talk of a sea of interest from home and abroad. According to Football Insider, Chukwuemeka wants as much as £100,000-per-week to sign a deal this summer.” https://www.spotrac.com/Premier League/chelsea-fc/carney-chukwuemeka-73194/#:~:text=Carney Chukwuemeka signed a 6,cap hit of £5%2C200%2C000. Reported £32m contract, £100k per week. I’m guessing that is more than Ollie Watkins, Mings, McGinn, and World Cup winner Martinez… for an 18yr old who quite frankly looked out of his depth (like you correctly point out that would be expected) in the few minutes that he had. If you google his wages, you’ll see loads of reports claiming the same. If those reports are accurate (which I concede may not be..) I think it’s disgusting, and Chelsea (not Carney) should be ashamed of themselves for ruining football. And for the good of football, I hope he has a failure of a career so that every other club learns a big lesson. I hope you agree. Edited May 23, 2023 by Thug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 52 minutes ago, bobzy said: I'm not really aware of anything he was demanding other than more playing time to be honest. Where did he demand wage of a seasoned international? He shouldn’t even have been demanding more playing time, he should just have been sent out on loan like the rest of the youth winning team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 hours ago, duke313 said: He shouldn’t even have been demanding more playing time, he should just have been sent out on loan like the rest of the youth winning team. I suppose when the CEO labels you the best player of hia age in the country then you would expect some playing time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 hours ago, Thug said: I think at the time it was reported that he would not sign for us unless we paid £100k per week. As with all things that are reported in the press, you have to take it all with a pinch of salt, but for example: https://www.birminghamworld.uk/sport/football/aston-villa/aston-villa-carney-chukwuemekas-huge-wage-demands-revealed-3778558 “The latest reports claim the midfielder has now rejected Villa’s contract offer amid talk of a sea of interest from home and abroad. According to Football Insider, Chukwuemeka wants as much as £100,000-per-week to sign a deal this summer.” https://www.spotrac.com/Premier League/chelsea-fc/carney-chukwuemeka-73194/#:~:text=Carney Chukwuemeka signed a 6,cap hit of £5%2C200%2C000. Reported £32m contract, £100k per week. I’m guessing that is more than Ollie Watkins, Mings, McGinn, and World Cup winner Martinez… for an 18yr old who quite frankly looked out of his depth (like you correctly point out that would be expected) in the few minutes that he had. If you google his wages, you’ll see loads of reports claiming the same. If those reports are accurate (which I concede may not be..) I think it’s disgusting, and Chelsea (not Carney) should be ashamed of themselves for ruining football. And for the good of football, I hope he has a failure of a career so that every other club learns a big lesson. I hope you agree. In fairness they are pretty poor sources. Football Insider said we would take what we paid for Emi if we sell him in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: In fairness they are pretty poor sources. Football Insider said we would take what we paid for Emi if we sell him in the summer Lol, I have a hard time believing it myself to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: I suppose when the CEO labels you the best player of hia age in the country then you would expect some playing time I suspect we were already aware that he wouldn’t be signing, and as such wanted to put it out there about how highly we valued him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 10 minutes ago, Thug said: I suspect we were already aware that he wouldn’t be signing, and as such wanted to put it out there about how highly we valued him. Purslow said it in March 2020 and Chukwuemekea signed his last deal with us in November 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, Zatman said: Purslow said it in March 2020 and Chukwuemekea signed his last deal with us in November 2020 I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 He starts tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Moneymeka gets a start, blimey. I guess its to put him in the shop window for a loan to league 1 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 He looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Reivax_Villa said: He looks good Dont say that on here. Worst player ever and wouldn't get a game for Hartlepool reserves 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Reivax_Villa said: He looks good Hasn't stopped them getting humped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstonMartyn88 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Well and truly had Chelsea’s pants down with that £20m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Delighted his move has been a disaster so far, although think he could do well under Poch. But would be delighted if it continues to go wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted May 28, 2023 Share Posted May 28, 2023 Shame he won’t be playing in Europe next season… *burst out laughing* 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 well if this is true that he’s in the shop window then this really hasn’t worked out for him. Numpty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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