CVByrne Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 I wish we could find out if we are owed compensation regardless of who signs him next summer when out of contract. I think it's a FIFA thing not just a UK thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, CVByrne said: I wish we could find out if we are owed compensation regardless of who signs him next summer when out of contract. I think it's a FIFA thing not just a UK thing It is The kid Liverpool just took from Aberdeen was £5m I think, it'll be a similar ballpark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: It is The kid Liverpool just took from Aberdeen was £5m I think, it'll be a similar ballpark Aberdeen are in UK though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: He would have signed by now. I don't think everyone assumed Salah wouldn't sign, in fact, the opposite, imo. Klopp seemed confident that he would. As for Chuck, he looks to have his sights set elsewhere. He has had plenty of first team opportunities with us, so why wouldn't he have signed already? maybe with the Ramsey Bros and Tim....he thinks "This town ain't big enough for all of us".....sorry for the western jibe.lol Edited July 2, 2022 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 5 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: He’s an insane talent, no question. I fear he’ll leave, likely for Germany, but if he stays we will have signed ourselves a player who’ll be worth 75-100m within two years. He reminds me so much of Pogba, hes got so much ability that hes a joy to watch when the things he tries comes off. When they dont hes a liability. Can work harder off the ball and to be fair to him he was coming back to make challenges in the England game, its quite clearly not a natural instinct for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Nicho said: He reminds me so much of Pogba, hes got so much ability that hes a joy to watch when the things he tries comes off. When they dont hes a liability. Can work harder off the ball and to be fair to him he was coming back to make challenges in the England game, its quite clearly not a natural instinct for him. That’s why you need to protect him. We don’t need a team of only hard workers without the required talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 7 hours ago, villa4europe said: It is The kid Liverpool just took from Aberdeen was £5m I think, it'll be a similar ballpark Think they paid 3 million for Carvalho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Nicho said: He reminds me so much of Pogba, hes got so much ability that hes a joy to watch when the things he tries comes off. When they dont hes a liability. Can work harder off the ball and to be fair to him he was coming back to make challenges in the England game, its quite clearly not a natural instinct for him. I seen people here talking about signing Milinkovic Savic and Carney is a similar style of player he just needs players to hold midfield like Kamara and Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Im assuming the agent is just driving a hard bargain. Not sure what top club is prepared to pay him silly wages or guarantee playing time. His best chance for minutes is at Villa, unless he wants to drop down a level in terms of league or club profile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 its seems to me like "sliding doors" Carney goes out....Sonny Perkins comes in. for much the same reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, TRO said: its seems to me like "sliding doors" Carney goes out....Sonny Perkins comes in. for much the same reasons. Why wasn't Perkins in the u19s team if he's so highly rated? Genuine question, I dont know anything about him bar these stories in the last month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 02/07/2022 at 09:26, Follyfoot said: Did I just read Henry Winkler giving credit to the Villa Academy or am I dreaming Eh? I'm lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Eh? I'm lost. Henry Winkler - The Fonz from Happy Days Henry Winter - football journalist who covers the English national sides Either @Follyfoot was having a laugh or got his Henrys mixed up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukes Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 I can only see this being his agent, i can't imagine any of the teams he's been linked to promising him more first team football than us. Surely the sensible thing for him is to sign a shorter contract extension of 2 to 3 years, and see how much football he gets. That puts him in a very good bargaining position if he progresses as well as Ramsey has done, and he'd still be very young at the end of that contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 hour ago, sparrow1988 said: Henry Winkler - The Fonz from Happy Days Henry Winter - football journalist who covers the English national sides Either @Follyfoot was having a laugh or got his Henrys mixed up. He's got two Henry's and a dealer to pay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, villa4europe said: Why wasn't Perkins in the u19s team if he's so highly rated? Genuine question, I dont know anything about him bar these stories in the last month I was thinking the same thing.....perhaps he is not as high profile as Carney? Carney has done his profile, no harm at all. Edited July 3, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 On 02/07/2022 at 17:34, Nicho said: He reminds me so much of Pogba, hes got so much ability that hes a joy to watch when the things he tries comes off. When they dont hes a liability. Out of interest (genuine interest, not trying to score a point of some sort) can you give an example of when something he has tried has not come off and has cost his team a game, a point or even a goal? Just as I can’t but I haven’t seen too much of his youth football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Adam2003 said: Out of interest (genuine interest, not trying to score a point of some sort) can you give an example of when something he has tried has not come off and has cost his team a game, a point or even a goal? Just as I can’t but I haven’t seen too much of his youth football. Being a liability when losing the ball doesn’t have to cause something catastrophic. I suppose the comment really means I think he needs to pick his opportunities better and not force it for the sake of it. That is just maturity as a footballer. United struggled with Pogba and Fernandes constantly playing risky balls, giving the ball back to the opponent is the way to allow them to score. He’s been towering over his counter parts in height, physicality and ability for about 3 years. Of course he tries things as he’s usually the best player. Youth football is about honing your talent not necessarily always winning games. He’s playing in the big boy game now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 12 hours ago, Adam2003 said: Out of interest (genuine interest, not trying to score a point of some sort) can you give an example of when something he has tried has not come off and has cost his team a game, a point or even a goal? Just as I can’t but I haven’t seen too much of his youth football. The only one I can point to is when he gave the ball away for Mane's winning goal at home to Liverpool. FWIW I think he's absolute quality and will be a world beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 As it stands i think that he will be one of the main 6 midfielders. McGinn Kamara Ramsey Chuk Iroegbunam Luiz In the Euros it was plain to see his increased awareness of his defensive responsibilities. That will stand him in good stead for the coming season. In a perfect world we would bring in another really classy centre mid but if we do not then thats still quite an exciting line up of midfielders with plenty of upside and age on their side. We might even add O"Reilly to the mix. And obviously have Marv and Sanson already. Keep him, play him and lets see where that takes us is my view now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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