messi11 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, villa89 said: He's got the talent, physique and skill but he's chronically lazy. Just walks around the pitch and occasionally ambles into a position to receive the ball. I dont know who was coaching him but they should have been screaming at him to get that laziness out of his game. You would hate Messi at Villa then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, villa89 said: He's got the talent, physique and skill but he's chronically lazy. I can't agree with that at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sparrow1988 Posted May 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, villa89 said: He's got the talent, physique and skill but he's chronically lazy. Just walks around the pitch and occasionally ambles into a position to receive the ball. I dont know who was coaching him but they should have been screaming at him to get that laziness out of his game. Second highest number of pressures per 90 in the squad for the season, but don't let that stop throwing out completely unfounded accusations about a young lad with a relaxed looking style. Edited May 11, 2022 by sparrow1988 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, messi11 said: You would hate Messi at Villa then 18 year old Messi that definitely didn't stroll anywhere, or the current version that earnt a little trust with his 1,000+ goal contributions and 7 Ballon d'Ors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 12 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Not a slight against him at all . Personal performance was okay even more for an 18 year old against esteemed opposition. He shouldn't have been introduced and certainly not for an out and out DM as we we are well on our way to a brilliant point. Was an odd one that wasn't it. Especially when Douglas was excelling in the 8 role, and we had Chambers and Iroegbunam sitting on the bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 29 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i just think he's got a languid style about him, looks lazy and relaxed when he's not, he's like the opposite of mcginn who permanently looks like he's busting a gut and blowing out of his ass got a touch of ozil about him, it will be a stick to beat him with his whole career That's pretty much all McGinn has though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: Chambers was not the person to come on in that position. Why. And also the fact that Tim has only just made his debut is pretty irrelevant given how highly thought of he is, and how good he's looked so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Just now, Tom13 said: Why. And also the fact that Tim has only just made his debut is pretty irrelevant given how highly thought of he is, and how good he's looked so far. I think that Liverpool midfield would have ran rings around Chambers. He is very immobile and turns a bit like the Titanic. He was fine against Burnley because let's face it, they're not blessed with nippy agile players. Keita, Jones or Thiago would have shown him up IMO. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Has anyone stopped to think that he’s 18 and learning his trade and young players generally are inconsistent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, sparrow1988 said: Second highest number of pressures per 90 in the squad for the season, but don't let that stop throwing out completely unfounded accusations about a young lad with a relaxed looking style. Don't they just hate it when facts get in the way of complete bullshit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Why. And also the fact that Tim has only just made his debut is pretty irrelevant given how highly thought of he is, and how good he's looked so far. The pace of the game, Luiz was the better option for 6. Liverpool do fast passing and moving. Chambers coming on would be like adding more of a 3rd CB. It would be trying to hold onto what we had type sub. Tim has played what 90 mins of PL football and you think throwing him in at 6 in toe to toe game with Liverpool would be fair on him? Luiz has been our starting 6 all season and if JJ was fit probably would have started the game at 6. It's the usual fan revisionism. Luiz was caught in possession for their 2nd goal. So it has to be Gerrards fault because he should have been able to see into the future that that would happen if he moved Luiz to 6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 minute ago, gwi1890 said: Has anyone stopped to think that he’s 18 and learning his trade and young players generally are inconsistent. Just go to a thread called Jacob Ramsey and read what was written about him less than a year ago. The vast majority of people on here are reactionary impulsive posters who don't want to try understand the game anything more than the superficial level. Single moments of a game define a player not their overall performance etc.. Lists of players they "hate" and will never allow anything but a binary love or hate be their views of a player. You just need to ignore the majority of the bile you read basically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Don't they just hate it when facts get in the way of complete bullshit? I mean, I'm aware the number of minutes that he has played is very low but, I've never looked at him and thought "lazy barsteward". His appearance certainly doesn't help with the long, lanky figure, along with the general effortless movement. He looks like he's strolling about but you realise then that nobody is getting close to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Has anyone stopped to think that he’s 18 and learning his trade and young players generally are inconsistent. Stop and think? Do you realise where you are here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Patrick Vieria rarely looked like he was busting a gut on the football pitch. I'd take him in the #6 role now, never mind in his pomp! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Tim has played what 90 mins of PL football and you think throwing him in at 6 in toe to toe game with Liverpool would be fair on him? He'd have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 8 hours ago, villa89 said: He's got the talent, physique and skill but he's chronically lazy. Just walks around the pitch and occasionally ambles into a position to receive the ball. I dont know who was coaching him but they should have been screaming at him to get that laziness out of his game. "You may not be the most talented player on the pitch or the most skillful but you can choose to be the hardest working. Nobody can stop you running." Alex McLeish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 I thought he's looked at home on the pitch whenever I've seen him. That's quite an achievement when you're playing Liverpool 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pez1974 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 He's been in the official pics a lot this last week, and the sub against Liverpool - something seems to be in the offering, whether we're trying to tempt him, or we're building up to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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