Villarocker Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Last summer we bought a whole new forward line - Trezeguet, Wesley, ElGhazi. This summer it looks like we are doing it again - Rashica, Watkins, Traore. We got what we wanted plus a new attacking right back and a younger, international goalkeeper thrown in. Are we happy? I am. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nnock1984 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Cash, Watkins, Martinez, Traoré, Rashica would be one hell of a window for what would look to be an initial 93.5million. For the perfect window, I still think we would need an experienced CB, and powerhouse CM. I don’t see us now getting a back up ST as both Traoré and Rashica can play there. I think we would need to move some players on first:- Nyland and Kalinic Elmo Engels (if CB comes in) Lansbury Jota Davis (Loan) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted September 14, 2020 Moderator Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, TheMightyVillans said: We desperately needed strengthening up front, wide areas and a keeper before the season started. It looks like this might be achieved in time. We do need another CM and CB but these can probably be left later in the window. Would love for us to get loftus-cheek on loan with option to buy and get an experienced CB in (Similar to what palace did with cahill). Don’t really see the need for a CB or think one is likely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Are we not linked to any cm? Will it be Conor for another season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Are we not linked to any cm? Will it be Conor for another season? It will be Jack who will be moved into Connor’s position. We will be playing three forwards with pace up front instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, LondonLax said: It will be Jack who will be moved into Connor’s position. We will be playing three forwards with pace up front instead. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Jack has played his best stuff on the left. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxfordVillan Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Encouraging to see the signings made thus far and the potential signings to come. However........I’m still waiting for that big, powerful CM?! That would be the icing on the cake for me if we land Traore and Rashica. We need a player like Everton now have in Doucoure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Villarocker said: Last summer we bought a whole new forward line - Trezeguet, Wesley, ElGhazi. This summer it looks like we are doing it again - Rashica, Watkins, Traore. We got what we wanted plus a new attacking right back and a younger, international goalkeeper thrown in. Are we happy? I am. Truth be told I'd still like an experienced centre-half and a holding midfielder. I think we are still relatively weak in those two positions and last season showed us that we aren't yet able to be a threat and solid. The signings and links thus far seem designed to make us a threat, but without better solidity it appears that we are still an either or team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 CM and CB still needed in my opinion. CB is more important in my eyes. I rate Konsa highly, but I’d like to see him learn off a new and experienced CB, whilst being first reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, villalad21 said: If it ain't broke don't fix it. Jack has played his best stuff on the left. But it very much is broken and its still only being mended. With Jack on the left we have little to no threat anywhere else. Moving him inside whilst getting to wide players - whether in a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 is crucial to both Jack as well as the team. We need to rely on him less otherwise it'll make any future separation very difficult to recover from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, peterw said: But it very much is broken and its still only being mended. With Jack on the left we have little to no threat anywhere else. Moving him inside whilst getting to wide players - whether in a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 is crucial to both Jack as well as the team. We need to rely on him less otherwise it'll make any future separation very difficult to recover from. How is it broken when we played so well after the break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: How is it broken when we played so well after the break? We defended better and as for the games we won, we were lucky to not be one down at home v Palace and everyone else were on their holidays. But we were hardly an attacking threat as we decided clearly to try and nick goals mostly through set-pieces, whilst holding deeper but better shapes defensively. Pre-lockdown it was the opposite way around, we tried to attack and once found out we were opened up so often and too easily. We haven't yet worked out how to be effective at both aspects. As for broken, that is something that happened years ago, under Lerner, and something we are slowly building back from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, peterw said: We defended better and as for the games we won, we were lucky to not be one down at home v Palace and everyone else were on their holidays. But we were hardly an attacking threat as we decided clearly to try and nick goals mostly through set-pieces, whilst holding deeper but better shapes defensively. Pre-lockdown it was the opposite way around, we tried to attack and once found out we were opened up so often and too easily. We haven't yet worked out how to be effective at both aspects. As for broken, that is something that happened years ago, under Lerner, and something we are slowly building back from. We were hardly an attacking threat because Dean chose to set us up defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radness Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Does anyone think we may have promised Jack he could play midfield as further encouragement to stay? Reading the room most people think he’s better utilised forward on the left and playing him midfield wouldn’t suit us as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, villalad21 said: We were hardly an attacking threat because Dean chose to set us up defensively. because he had no choice. We were losing, leaking goals, Wesley injured, Samatta and Davis getting little service and not scoring. So, to try and change things we were set up defensively. I don't remember exactly but 6 games after the restart we were W0 D2 L4 having scored 1 goal in that time. maybe 2 goals - I can't recall now. Defensively we were better but only because we had to give up being an attacking threat. We're now addressing the attacking but defensively we're light in quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted September 14, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Radness said: Does anyone think we may have promised Jack he could play midfield as further encouragement to stay? Reading the room most people think he’s better utilised forward on the left and playing him midfield wouldn’t suit us as much. I think that is reasonable, although it is quite possible the reason he didn't look as good in the middle is because we didn't have any players good enough up front. Maybe now we will and he will be very effective centrally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) Moving Jack into midfield also means we will have to rely on players like El Ghazi and Trezeguet. Edited September 14, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, villalad21 said: Moving Jack into midfield also means we will have to rely on players like El Ghazi and Trezeguet. That’s why we are signing Rashica and Traoré. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I am pretty happy with the current business and delighted if the others come off. Not sure why we seem so happy with the left back situation but I guess other areas are a higher priority for the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Moving Jack into midfield also means we will have to rely on players like El Ghazi and Trezeguet. Not for much longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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