BigRed Posted September 7, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, VillaFaninLondon said: Yes Leeds have signed 2 excellent players there. As much as Smith's lovers will defend him, I do think Bielsa is a really big pull there for Leeds though. He's very well known in football and plays a really interesting style of football, that's enabled Leeds to bring in 2 players who wouldn't ordinarily go to a newly promoted club. I still think though that Leeds on paper aren't very good, they'll still have lots of Championship players in their starting 11 and their high press will expose them massively against the better teams in the division. We already have the makings of a reasonable team with Jack, Doug, SJM, Konsa and Mings. We just need a sprinkling of talent out wide, up front and in midfield and we'll probably be well clear of relegation. It's quite simply really, which is why I can't understand their incompetence at getting players in. I think this gets missed. It’s not necessarily the individual brilliance of players that makes Bielsa’s teams successful it’s that they are coached to the point where they no their job inside out & are fit enough to do it for 90 minutes. This is why he’d happily throw a youth team player in before a new signing has got up to speed because they know their job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshharris12 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Calm down dears it's only a transfer window. Only the future of the club as it stands the wingers and forwards are not fit to wear our shirt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted September 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2020 OK, before everyone starts getting depressed, of the signings that have happened in the premier league this summer, is there anyone that people think "we should have got XX"? Apart from those clearly out of our league at the moment (e.g. Havertz, Van De Peek etc.) I would probably put the list as follows:- Ramsdale (possibly, although I think Heaton is going to be back sooner) Robinson (£2million seems a good deal and could have been better competition for Targett than Taylor) Eze (yep definitely would hope to have been in there) I wouldn't count Fraser or Wilson as they look like they are on long contracts with ridiculous wages at Newcastle. I am not even convinced Wilson actually states we were in for him. The interviewer suggests Villa launched a bid, but he responds by saying both us and Newcastle were both big clubs and then talks about "Goal". He doesn't actually acknowledge that there was a bid at all. I genuinely think the only one that "got away" is Eze, and even then, we seem to have a couple of other options anyway. There is still very little movement, particulary where we are looking. Will people stop panicking please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: We actually scored plenty of goals over the course of last season - more than Sheff United for example. Conceding was the issue. But I agree with you I’ll be a lot happier with a new fit striker in! Because not many of those goals came from up top. Both areas were an issue. After lockdown the final third was a major issue. The defence also look like they will improve this season. Our final third attacking doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, cyrusr said: OK, before everyone starts getting depressed, of the signings that have happened in the premier league this summer, is there anyone that people think "we should have got XX"? Apart from those clearly out of our league at the moment (e.g. Havertz, Van De Peek etc.) I would probably put the list as follows:- Ramsdale (possibly, although I think Heaton is going to be back sooner) Robinson (£2million seems a good deal and could have been better competition for Targett than Taylor) Eze (yep definitely would hope to have been in there) I wouldn't count Fraser or Wilson as they look like they are on long contracts with ridiculous wages at Newcastle. I am not even convinced Wilson actually states we were in for him. The interviewer suggests Villa launched a bid, but he responds by saying both us and Newcastle were both big clubs and then talks about "Goal". He doesn't actually acknowledge that there was a bid at all. I genuinely think the only one that "got away" is Eze, and even then, we seem to have a couple of other options anyway. There is still very little movement, particulary where we are looking. Will people stop panicking please! a few but I don't think this is really relevant. All clubs have different needs, ultimately we need to improve the squad and are currently failing to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BigRed said: I think this gets missed. It’s not necessarily the individual brilliance of players that makes Bielsa’s teams successful it’s that they are coached to the point where they no their job inside out & are fit enough to do it for 90 minutes. This is why he’d happily throw a youth team player in before a new signing has got up to speed because they know their job. Exactly same with Benitez. It's the system that gets them results, not individuals. Sure having good individuals helps any coach and team but there won't be as big of a drop in performance levels compared to someone like Bruce who heavily rely on his "star" players. Edited September 7, 2020 by villalad21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, BigRed said: The draw is that he’s a renowned coach who improves players whilst playing top stuff. Anyone would be attracted to that knowing that he could be made into a top player & go further in his career. also whilst it may be classed as not successful it’s not as though he’s managed the top club in all counties he’s been at. Does he tho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 OHHHHH TAMMY TAMMY, TAMMY TAMMY TAMMY TAMMY ABRAHAM...... not itk, not heard anything, dont know nothing, just practicing just in case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Helenius, Okore, Nyland. Great success Okore i dont consider a flop. Helnius went throught some issues from what i remember Nyland i will give you. God he is hopeless. Just dont sign any Scandinavian keepers! Sorensen did well though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post est1874 Posted September 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Villa Fans, 2010: You know, we're really close to this Champions League thing, I reckon a little bit more investment and-- The Universe: Sorry, your chairman has decided to stop backing the manager and wants some of his wasted fortune back. Villa Fans, 2016: Okay, that was rough, some bad times in recent years culminating in relegation but hey, a flash new owner! Time to smash the Championship and-- The Universe: Sorry, Dr Tony is a broke fraud and you can't even pay a routine tax bill or player wages. Villa Fans, 2019: Whew, close one! Finally, proper money behind us, back in the Premier League via the play-offs, could be a lot worse, now time to make a real go of this Premier League thing and-- The Universe: Sorry, FFP. Injuries. Covid-19. Take your fvcking pick. ... Villa Fans, 2020: Wow, that was a lucky escape! But hey, now that FFP is slightly relaxed to account for lost revenue due to the pandemic, we can finally spend real fees and wages to bring in quality players and-- The Universe: Sorry; the movie Goal! The Dream Begins is a 2005 sports drama directed by Danny Cannon and tracing the rise of Santiago Munez, a young man with a rough background who is offered the chance to trial with a club in England, and it's not Aston Villa. Edited September 7, 2020 by est1874 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 I need some new links so I can criticise unfairly! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Both areas were an issue. After lockdown the final third was a major issue. The defence also look like they will improve this season. Our final third attacking doesn't. I think we will stay up if we defend as we did after lockdown. Our problem was throwing away too many points when we were playing well early in the season due to silly mistakes. It's at least a base to start the season with if we have to wait til October to do business in the transfer market. At the moment it feels like clubs aren't willing to commit to buying players therefore they don't want to let players go, hence we are all fighting over the scraps like Wilson at silly prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, pete101 said: Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, pete101 said: Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate He's far better than Carlton Cole, but I do think most Villa fans overrate him quite a bit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 so in Wilson's interview, he said it was a 50/50 decision between Newcastle & Villa, then he went on to talk about how his son watches the film "Goal" a lot and told his dad he wanted him to sign for Newcastle. So looks like we were seriously in for him. Not upset though, rightly or wrongly, i wasnt keen on this transfer, especially with the reported 4 year contract, with an additional year option at the players choice. Also in the interview it was said that Fraser was holding off agreeing the move to Newcastle until he heard Wilson had joined, so both are going there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 7, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted September 7, 2020 I also thought we would have been more active than we are. Was kinda hoping we'd go into the window with targets in mind and would be aggressive to get them in early. But seems we've gone in a different direction which is fine I guess. I have no idea how difficult it is to bring in players. I just really hope we at least have a new striker by the time we play our first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, pete101 said: Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate I quite liked Carlton Cole, but he was a shite goalscorer. Can't say that about Tammy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, pete101 said: Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pete101 said: Gonna say it , think Tammy has reached his ceiling and can't see him improving much more , I've always thought that he is a slightly better Carlton Cole , bring on the hate We've certainly put him on a pedestal, but we're not exactly flush with strikers who've scored 20 goals a season for us in recent seasons. In the Championship, yes. I still reckon he'd do a massive job for us, and I think the triumvirate of Lange Smith and Purslow would be insane not to bid big money for him. Of course that's just my opinion, and whether he'd come or not is another story. Probably not, but hopefully we've at least tried....... Edited September 7, 2020 by est1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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