AvfcRigo82 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mjvilla said: If we do stay up, unlikely as it seems, I don't think we should be looking to let anyone leave who could play a part. We need to be adding to the group of a more settled squad whilst letting the absolute lowest squad members leave. For example, we need to bring in a big, proper DM. Another central midfielder would allow Lansbury to leave. 2 new starting wingers are needed, so el ghazi and trez should drop to squad players. Jota, who has shown absolutely nothing in his time here, should be the one to leave. We automatically improve our wingers and depth in those positions. Letting lots leave this summer would mean more need to come in. Then, that transfer budget is squashed into more players, like last summer, rather than adding 3/4 more quality players which come at a higher premium. We might not have a choice of letting any players go if the right money comes in for them. It would still be safe to lose 11+ of this current squad and replacing them with better quality or a decent prospect status adding to what we already have where it would be needed. When you look that we have so many keepers, Reina & Sarkic depart and we sell Kalanic. Still leaves us with 3. We lose Chester, and should sell Taylor and Bree. Replacing with better quality where possible and needed in those positions. We may lose Mings? We may lose Luiz? Who knows, but Drinkwater leaves and we need to part with Lansbury. Trezeguet off and a replacement would be needed. Jota also not good enough and should also be sold. Elmohamedy would be a useful backup in this position. El Ghazi could be a different player under the right tutelage. We do need another winger in that position though on the left. A good quality midfielder is needed. It's looking like we also lose Grealish and so he also needs replaced. Samatta I don't think is good enough and I think we should part ways. Bringing in 2/3 more quality strikers is needed on top of Wesley & Davis (If he stays) if we ever intend to play with 2 upfront again. Overall it wouldn't do us any harm clearing out that amount of players and bringing in 6/7 quality replacements where possible is not a complete overhaul but just adding to what already have. Most of this team have a PL season under their belts now and we should build on and around that. It's a good foundation for anyone to build on if we survive. Edited July 20, 2020 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Interesting what will happen to fees now that an untried youngster who has never played top flight has gone for 25m. Never seen him play (for obvious reasons), so not a dig, but we were told transfer fees would be depressed by covid. I'd wait to see what the market looks like before sanctioning deals next monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Stratvillan said: Interesting what will happen to fees now that an untried youngster who has never played top flight has gone for 25m. Never seen him play (for obvious reasons), so not a dig, but we were told transfer fees would be depressed by covid. I'd wait to see what the market looks like before sanctioning deals next monday. Some posters on here believe we won't get £15m more on that price for Grealish. Funny old game isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Depending on who the manager is and what division we are In will have a huge effect on number of players required obviously. If we stay up then tweaking of first XI will be the priority and I’d keep El Ghazi and Trez for squad options. Samatta is the one I’m not convinced with but will give him first half of next season before writing him off completely same as Nakamba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: I completely disagree. In his 64 appearances in a Villa shirt, I’d argue he’s had 6 good games at most. I remember wanting him gone when we were playing in championship but for some unbeknown reason we decided to stick with him in the Premier League as a starting player. Look how that’s gone. He’s one of those, ‘on his day he’s unplayable’ types. Only, he isn’t, because he’s not, and even if he was, that ‘unplayable day’ happens once in ten matches. The highest praise I can give him is that he’s a luxury player. There is absolutely no way I want him here next season regardless of which division we’re in. Same goes for Trez too who is arguably worse. I'm sorry, but our wide options are an absolute joke and are so far off what is required in this division. It's one of the main reasons we are where we are in the league. Everything falls down when they get on the ball. Awful. There is a difference between a luxury player and just not a world beater. El ghazi is fine but plays in a team with no movement off the ball so when he receives the ball there is never a pass on so he will often have to attempt to beat multiple players which is incredibly difficult. The number of chances we have missed off of his crosses or the number of times we could have put him through in one on one situations this season are staggering but we don't because players play the pass too late or make the run too late. If el ghazi played for even just Brighton he would have similar stats to Harvey Barnes in my opinion because they have off the ball movement and people who attack balls in the box which we lack and it kills most of our attacks. He is an average Premier league winger right now and the fact that people on here deny that is ridiculous. People have said they want sare who has scored and assisted the same number of goals as el ghazi had this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratvillan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Some posters on here believe we won't get £15m more on that price for Grealish. Funny old game isn't it. As much as we'll sell him, and want outgoings done early. Itd be interesting to wait until a few British players have been sold internally. It's impossible to gauge the market until then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted July 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2020 Basically we need to not sign any shit players. It’s a brave strategy, but it might just work. 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, MotoMkali said: There is a difference between a luxury player and just not a world beater. El ghazi is fine but plays in a team with no movement off the ball so when he receives the ball there is never a pass on so he will often have to attempt to beat multiple players which is incredibly difficult. The number of chances we have missed off of his crosses or the number of times we could have put him through in one on one situations this season are staggering but we don't because players play the pass too late or make the run too late. If el ghazi played for even just Brighton he would have similar stats to Harvey Barnes in my opinion because they have off the ball movement and people who attack balls in the box which we lack and it kills most of our attacks. He is an average Premier league winger right now and the fact that people on here deny that is ridiculous. People have said they want sare who has scored and assisted the same number of goals as el ghazi had this season. El Ghazi will never be an average Premier League winger. He was barely even an average Championship winger. Sorry Moto, no one can convince me our wingers are anything but dreadful! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Dave-R said: I would of agree but keeping Trezegeut and Ghazi for me is another no, need a complete new set of wingers what ever league we are in. Selling both of them would be bloody idiotic imo. They're not the best group of wingers, but they are our only wingers at this point. If we sell both, then we will need to bring in 3/4, which is similar to what we thought last year, and we ended up with only the two of them which was extremely short sighted. We need at least one of them to stay as cover/backup. I would be fine selling one of them, provided we can bring 2 (or 3) more in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Farlz Posted July 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2020 Quote Aston Villa are facing a crucial night in their survival mission, with Dean Smith revealing the club are prepared to spend big again if they stay in the Premier League. Smith is preparing for a huge encounter at home to Arsenal on Tuesday with his team running out of time to avoid a swift return to the Championship. Villa are third bottom, three points adrift of safety and a heavy defeat against Mikel Arteta’s resurgent team will almost certainly sentence the Midlands club to relegation. Watford face Manchester City before Villa kick off, in a game which could dramatically alter the relegation picture. Yet Smith is remaining optimistic ahead of two pivotal games and has insisted that the club’s financial future will be safe in the event of dropping out of the top tier. Villa’s billionaire owners Nassef Sawiris and Wes Edens have spent over £135 million this season to help build a new squad, and Smith said significant funds will be made available if the club scrambles to safety. He said: “We are thankful we have two billionaire owners who have ambitions of improving this club as we go. “If we remain in the league then we have certainly got the power to compete with some of the other big clubs. “We also know what is at stake and how ambitious they are and why we want to stay in the Premier League. “They are fully behind the players and myself to maintain our Premier League status. We want to do it for them as much as anyone.” Villa were plunged into financial chaos in the Championship just over two years ago under former owner Dr Tony Xia, after losing the play-off final to Fulham. But Sawiris and Edens completed their takeover in July 2018 - two years ago on Monday - and have since pumped in over £250m on players and improving the infrastructure. It is understood they were prepared to put in more money but are restricted by the Premier League’s rules on Financial Fair Play. Promotion to the Premier League has also ensured they will avoid scrutiny over the English Football League’s Profitability & Sustainability rules for the next 12 months if they are relegated. Smith said: "The short-term future of the club will not be in jeopardy at all. If we get relegated it's one of those things we have to deal with, we're in great hands with the owners we have got. “I think each club will have its own reasons for staying up. We are very fortunate as a club that we have two billionaire owners who we are reliant on and have been fantastic for us. “We don’t want to be in this position and we don’t want to be relegated but if we did we would have to deal with it. “This time next week, I will be sitting here knowing exactly where we are at. We have to work hard this week to do that.” Villa could move out of the bottom three with victory over Arsenal, and a heavy defeat for Watford. Smith then faces West Ham on the final day for a game which he hopes will prove hugely significant. “You’ll always have people that want to put you down at times, so the job is to prove people wrong,” he said. “We believe that we have enough in the dressing room, and we have to prove that. "We know what we've got to achieve, we have to go and win football games to catch the teams above us. If we win both of them then we've got a chance of catching West Ham and Brighton. "If we win one of them we've got a chance of catching Watford but we're dependent on other results as well.” https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/20/dean-smith-reveals-aston-villas-billionaire-owners-will-spend/ Owners seem to be committed 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 hours ago, It's Your Round said: Basically we need to not sign any shit players. It’s a brave strategy, but it might just work. It's really really really easy to not sign bad players. Suso out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Salisu to Southampton for £10m. Heavens above that's a bargain. Suso out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 @Villan4Life have you looked at Keane Lewis-Potter? I see he's been getting a few games for Hull recently and that he's pretty young. Interested to know if he might be one to look out for should they go down again (looking likely) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: Salisu to Southampton for £10m. Heavens above that's a bargain. Suso out. We need someone who knows what the buyout clauses are for players. Minamino is an example of this and then moving early so we can get said player. Salisu too 10.9 million. It's scandalous the amount of players we've missed out on because we're so effing slow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: It's really really really easy to not sign bad players. Suso out. Then why have we and some other clubs seem to do nothing but sign bad players? Edited July 21, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Then why have we and some other clubs seem to do nothing but sign bad players? I DON'T KNOW. IT'S VERY ANNOYING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 21, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2020 12 hours ago, It's Your Round said: Basically we need to not sign any shit players. It’s a brave strategy, but it might just work. The problem is one mans meat is another mans poison and we have been feasting on poison for the last decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Tomaszk said: It's really really really easy to not sign bad players. Suso out. My comment about not signing shit players was tongue in cheek. I’d say no need for sarcasm, but there’s always a need for sarcasm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterw Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If we were to stay up I'd go out and get Talisca who was sold by besiktas to China in jan 2019. Attacking midfielder with bags of class and can score. The only reason he went in 2019 was besiktas were forced to sell because they were mired in financial troubles as were a host of teams in the Turkish top flight. he is a seriously good player and would be a great player to have. Tall as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, peterw said: If we were to stay up I'd go out and get Talisca who was sold by besiktas to China in jan 2019. Attacking midfielder with bags of class and can score. The only reason he went in 2019 was besiktas were forced to sell because they were mired in financial troubles as were a host of teams in the Turkish top flight. he is a seriously good player and would be a great player to have. Tall as well. Is on a cool €180k/w in China apparently. But once his contract ends in 2022 he will be forced under the new €49k/w wage cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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