Generic Virus Thread

[snowychap]

56 minutes ago, choffer said:

My hope is that joining my support bubble trumps the order to not leave a tier 4 location. At the moment, I’m not clear on that. 

The support bubble stuff was a thing even in the second lockdown so it would be a little bizarre if they binned it for Tier 4.

I have sympathy with not being clear on it as there won't be any clarity until they publish new regulations, on which:

 

[choffer]

Thanks Snowy. Guess I find out for sure in the morning then. 

[snowychap]

7 minutes ago, choffer said:

Thanks Snowy. Guess I find out for sure in the morning then. 

Also, though I know I've said look at the legislation rather than the guidance throughout this, this is what the guidance says at the moment (so should give a hint that they don't intend to change that for the Tier 4 areas as that page has been amended with reference to a fourth tier):

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There is also separate guidance for support and childcare bubbles, which apply across all tiers.

Support bubbles have been expanded. From 2 December you can form a support bubble with another household if any of the following apply to you:

you are the only adult in your household (any other members of the household having been under 18 on 12 June 2020) or are the only adult who does not have a disability that needs continuous care

you have a child under 1

you live with a child under 5 with a disability that needs continuous care

Edit:

Also this is from the new guidance:

 

Edited December 19, 2020 by snowychap

[Davkaus]

Shall we have a sweepstake on when the regulations come out? Within an hour or midnight seems like a safe bet.

[NurembergVillan]

1 hour ago, Davkaus said:

Shall we have a sweepstake on when the regulations come out? Within an hour or midnight seems like a safe bet.

Some people not willing to wait and find out...

 

[Chindie]

Ah yes. Can't be having this strain linger in the South East too long, let's export it country wide.

[NurembergVillan]

3 hours ago, Genie said:

 

That sad word removed spends it on his own anyway -

[Davkaus]

2 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said:

Some people not willing to wait and find out...

 

I guess the only alternative is "Travel is banned immediately" and literally stopping people trying to board trains, which is a logistical, legal, and ethical nightmare.

Still though, what a bunch of dickheads. 

[Davkaus]

Just now, NurembergVillan said:

That sad word removed spends it on his own anyway -

I note that we can't see what he's doing with his right hand.

[chrisp65]

My fave Queen speech was when she tried to sell the old Cameron line that we were all in it together, and she was sat in a palace, with her gold piano right in shot.

Comedy genius.

 

 

[HanoiVillan]

5 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said:

Would like to have seen someone ask him about Williamson’s crusade against certain schools.

 

Really bears repeating. On Monday this week, two things happened:

1. Matt Hancock addressed the House of Commons, and gave the first mention of a new, more virulent strain of coronavirus;
2. After some London councils, such as Islington and Greenwich, argued that rising coronavirus cases meant that teaching should go online for the final few days of the term, Gavin Williamson's Department of Education threatened to sue councils to force them to remain open for in-person teaching.

The following day, councils backed down. Schools remained open; students went into schools to share space with their teachers and classmates. They spent 2 or 3 days pretending to watch 'Frozen' or 'Despicable Me 2' while actually sending messages under the desk on their phones, and helped spread the virus.

Then the government backed down - sort of - and announced on the final day of term that there would be a week of online teaching to begin the spring term; most students had already broken up. It will be impossible to organise for many institutions, so that week will be lost for many students.

If Matt Hancock knew enough about this strain to be giving a statement about it in the Commons, just what the **** were the Department of Education up to?

[HanoiVillan]

My favourite Queen's Speech is none of them, because I've never watched one and never will.

[Davkaus]

7 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

My favourite Queen's Speech is none of them, because I've never watched one and never will.

[chrisp65]

8 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

My favourite Queen's Speech is none of them, because I've never watched one and never will.

‘Philip! Fire up the Uno ’

 

 

[HanoiVillan]

I will say one thing though - I hope she never dies, because the week or two after she does is going to be an absolute **** nightmare.

[chrisp65]

2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

I will say one thing though - I hope she never dies, because the week or two after she does is going to be an absolute **** nightmare.

There are those that say she died in 66 and has been played by Billy Shears ever since.

[HanoiVillan]

5 minutes ago, chrisp65 said:

There are those that say she died in 66 and has been played by Billy Shears ever since.

Had to Mooney that one. Interesting stuff.

[Demitri_C]

So pissed off about putting us in a tier 4. 

[Mark Albrighton]

19 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said:

I will say one thing though - I hope she never dies, because the week or two after she does is going to be an absolute **** nightmare.

This is wildly off topic but the amount of news given to Babs passing away made me realise just how much coverage there’s going to be when the Queen goes. Obviously I knew this already but it kinda hit home the over day. 

It’s going to be a good solid month of literally nothing else. I say at least a month, it actually could be any amount of time. That’s going to be a prime time to bury some bad news with that all going on.

[mikeyp102]

Everyone knew it was stupid for London to go into tier 2, they should always have been in tier 3. But Boris wanted his friend to make some money and be able to go out for dinner. Well it’s well and truly backfired and now buggering up everyone else as well.