darrenm Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, snowychap said: You've been on this site for twelve years, Darren. And you're not an idiot. Every time I take you off ignore I regret it. I won't make the same mistake again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, bickster said: I assumed that was 40 million doses as in enough for 40 mil people. Though I confesss it's not something I'd rightly considered when I was intending to have a little fun at Darren's expense. You may have a point there But whoi knows, if he gets two doses his hairt might grow back It’s been reported the 40m doses is enough for 20m people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 10, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, darrenm said: I'll be first in the queue https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7373684/ "Male balding is a major risk factor for severe COVID-19" I know, it's been known for sometime that, it's why I kept my lockdown hair for so long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, darrenm said: Every time I take you off ignore I regret it. I won't make the same mistake again. You don't even understand what you've posted, do you? Edited November 10, 2020 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 45 minutes ago, bickster said: I assumed that was 40 million doses as in enough for 40 mil people. Though I confesss it's not something I'd rightly considered when I was intending to have a little fun at Darren's expense. You may have a point there But whoi knows, if he gets two doses his hairt might grow back How much PPE is a pair of gloves... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I’m surprised they’ve not managed to find anyone with an adverse reaction to this vaccine yet. We know that many extremely common drugs like paracetamol, aspirin, penicillin etc really disagree with some people. They are still used everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaulC Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Have any of you heard of this vaccine before it was announced that it had gone through stage three and was 90% succcesful? Is there a possibility that this is fake news just give the economy a much needed boost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 11, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2020 1 minute ago, PaulC said: Have any of you heard of this vaccine before it was announced that it had gone through stage three and was 90% succcesful? Is there a possibility that this is fake news just give the economy a much needed boost? Yes, it's real It is hopefully not the solution though. This vaccine will be ten times more costly than the Oxford University one, the results of which are expected in a matter of weeks and won't come with the severe storage issues that this vaccine comes with 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted November 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2020 I'm halfway through The Last of Us 2 No way am I getting a vaccine 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, bickster said: Yes, it's real It is hopefully not the solution though. This vaccine will be ten times more costly than the Oxford University one, the results of which are expected in a matter of weeks and won't come with the severe storage issues that this vaccine comes with ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darrenm Posted November 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, PaulC said: Have any of you heard of this vaccine before it was announced that it had gone through stage three and was 90% succcesful? Is there a possibility that this is fake news just give the economy a much needed boost? Yes. It's the German Biontech genetically engineered version. As Bicks says, it was behind the Oxford vaccine which has been the front runner all the way along. It looks like the efficacy results of the Pfizer/Biontech are better than the Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine and it has the potential to be produced more quickly and could have less side effects. The Oxford vaccine is attenuated Covid-19 virus in an Adenovirus carrier. It's a standard concept. BionTech is a pure messenger RNA vaccine so no virus is needed. It's kind of implanting the instructions on how to fight the virus into your body without your body needing to see the virus and build its own instructions. This is a good explainer even if it is from the source so has a vested interest in making it sound good https://www.pfizer.co.uk/behind-science-what-mrna-vaccine Quote Many standard vaccines work by injecting a dead or weakened form of the pathogen into the body in preparations that are designed not to make you sick but rather to build immunity. The key to building this immunity is that the portion of the pathogen called the antigen trains the immune system to recognise and respond to the infectious agent.5 RNA vaccines work by introducing into the body a messenger RNA (mRNA) sequence that contains the genetic instructions for the vaccinated person’s own cells to produce the vaccine antigens and generate an immune response. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 11, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2020 15 hours ago, Genie said: I’m surprised they’ve not managed to find anyone with an adverse reaction to this vaccine yet. You can find millions of them in America, Coincidentally most of whom also Voted for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, sidcow said: You can find millions of them in America, Coincidentally most of whom also Voted for Trump. I bet they read about the risks on facebook. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 11, 2020 Author Share Posted November 11, 2020 5 hours ago, darrenm said: Yes. It's the German Biontech genetically engineered version. As Bicks says, it was behind the Oxford vaccine which has been the front runner all the way along. It looks like the efficacy results of the Pfizer/Biontech are better than the Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine and it has the potential to be produced more quickly and could have less side effects. The Oxford vaccine is attenuated Covid-19 virus in an Adenovirus carrier. It's a standard concept. BionTech is a pure messenger RNA vaccine so no virus is needed. It's kind of implanting the instructions on how to fight the virus into your body without your body needing to see the virus and build its own instructions. This is a good explainer even if it is from the source so has a vested interest in making it sound good https://www.pfizer.co.uk/behind-science-what-mrna-vaccine The long term risk factors associated with the RNA drug platform are basically unconstrained, whereas the Oxford candidate uses a well known and well characterized process. This needs far more discussion than it is currently getting. Also, it's quite interesting how the Russian/Chinese etc., treatment options are all being ignored, because they are clearly lying and incompetent, clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 hours ago, Genie said: I bet they read about the risks on facebook. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!1! Bet they still have Windows on their laptop, use office 365 for everything and shop at Walmart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Assuming there is a vaccine to roll out, how are our government going to monumentally **** it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 12, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Genie said: Assuming there is a vaccine to roll out, how are our government going to monumentally **** it up? Easily? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, bickster said: Easily? Yep. Specially though? I was thinking they’d hire some consultants to oversea the jabs and some private nurses being paid £800 a day to administer them. But, it’s later revealed that 90% of them were sat doing nothing but getting paid because Hancock messed up the logistics of getting the drugs to the surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Well, there was some talk of GPs having to reduce their hours for other ailments and conditions so that they can spend half their time doing jabs, which seems like a staggering waste of money when a nurse could do it, so there's one possible way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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