Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, villakram said: It''ll be really interesting to see the statistical properties of this trial. I read 43,500 people tested across 6 countries with no safety concerns raised. Higher than expected success rate at >90%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chindie said: It's done Pfizer's share price no end of good so stick that in your statistical pipe and analyse it. Dow 30k, get your t-shirt while stocks last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Genie said: I read 43,500 people tested across 6 countries with no safety concerns raised. Higher than expected success rate at >90%. and that's just the start of the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, villakram said: and that's just the start of the problems. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 3 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: 'on track for approval within weeks', according to this FT correspondant: Trump’s out, plandemic’s over boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 LOL Dunno why this makes me chuckle, but it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: LOL Dunno why this makes me chuckle, but it does Whole travel industry shoots up. Tui +21% Ryanair +12% Lufthansa +21% Easyjet +33% Trivago +26% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: LOL Dunno why this makes me chuckle, but it does And me. It's all just ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) Boris is on. "Alas" count: 1. EDIT: "Alas" count: 2. EDIT: "Alas" count: 3, no make that 4. A special mention for the "toot of the cavalry's bugle". Edited November 9, 2020 by trekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Genie said: Why? 25k get drug 25k control 90days later, say 100 in drug group had covid vs 1000 in control group. Hey presto, "more than" 90% effective What is the housing situation of the respective groups (size of, family members, of co-habitants, how did they all behave)? Socializing? Work? Then we have age, co-morbidities etc. This is a very difficult study with lots of things to control for. One would hope that this information makes it into the public domain. It is all too easy to find the answer you seek, when you design the study/analysis. Hence an eyebrow should be raised... and that's before we consider the profit motive at play and the long history of pharma shenanigans. Edited November 9, 2020 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, villakram said: 25k get drug 25k control 90days later, say 100 in drug group had covid vs 1000 in control group. Hey presto, "more than" 90% effective What is the housing situation of the respective groups (size of, family members, of co-habitants, how did they all behave)? Socializing? Work? Then we have age, co-morbidities etc. This is a very difficult study with lots of things to control for. One would hope that this information makes it into the public domain. It is all too easy to find the answer you seek, when you design the study/analysis. Hence an eyebrow should be raised... and that's before we consider the profit motive at play and the long history of pharma shenanigans. How is this related to the comment that doing the study across 6 very different and diverse counties is “just the start of the problems”? Theres lots of unknowns because this is unique situation where a worldwide vaccine is needed quickly, however, it’s in not in Pfizer’s interest to market a poor quality product in the medium or long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Genie said: Whole travel industry shoots up. Tui +21% Ryanair +12% Lufthansa +21% Easyjet +33% Trivago +26% My share portfolio is up 11% today. It went down 50% in March so still a long way to go! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Genie said: How is this related to the comment that doing the study across 6 very different and diverse counties is “just the start of the problems”? Theres lots of unknowns because this is unique situation where a worldwide vaccine is needed quickly, however, it’s in not in Pfizer’s interest to market a poor quality product in the medium or long term. Errr... because most of the outlined issues will differ from country to country given the different cultures therein Regarding product quality: The pharma companies are requiring governments to indemnify them with our tax dollars/pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, villakram said: One would hope that this information makes it into the public domain. https://pfe-pfizercom-d8-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/2020-09/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol.pdf#page9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, a m ole said: https://pfe-pfizercom-d8-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/2020-09/C4591001_Clinical_Protocol.pdf#page9 Actual data they took is what really matters. We'll all be injected with this by the time most of that can be released, so I do hope more than the clowns in SAGE group et al. are going to be given access to and taking a hard/fair look at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 50 minutes ago, Xela said: My share portfolio is up 11% today. It went down 50% in March so still a long way to go! I’ll check mine out tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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choffer Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, bickster said: The rest of his account does him no favours. Weapons Grade Idiot There’s a lot of it about, unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, choffer said: Must be a parody account surely? Edited November 10, 2020 by LondonLax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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