NurembergVillan Posted November 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2020 7 hours ago, villakram said: Hairy bacon! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Quote A room, a bar and a classroom: how the coronavirus is spread through the air The risk of contagion is highest in indoor spaces but can be reduced by applying all available measures to combat infection via aerosols. Here is an overview of the likelihood of infection in three everyday scenarios, based on the safety measures used and the length of exposure El Pais This is a really good, clear and scientific explanation of how the bug gets around inside, and your chances of getting it. Edited November 8, 2020 by Xann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 8, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 06/11/2020 at 09:05, snowychap said: New lockdown: Manchester University students pull down campus fences Good work from the students. Yep, I lived in Oak House next to OP tower in 2006-7 and I’m sure I would’ve been ripping the fence down too if it was that year. On 06/11/2020 at 10:19, NurembergVillan said: When I was living in Fallowfield we'd walk on the opposite side of the road to the Owen's Park halls during autumn and winter because it was always so full of meningitis cases you only had to look at the place and you'd get a stiff neck. Thanks! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2020 Insurance scare tactic. "I was going to a shop". Sounds like the biggest load of bollocks ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted November 9, 2020 Pfizer saying their vaccine is more than 90% effective in preventing infection in Preliminary trial 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, bickster said: Pfizer saying their vaccine is more than 90% effective in preventing infection in Preliminary trial 'on track for approval within weeks', according to this FT correspondant: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: 'on track for approval within weeks', according to this FT correspondant: Needs to get a move on as our time in the EU is borrowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Seat68 said: Needs to get a move on as our time in the EU is borrowed. Later on in the thread he lists our order (30m doses) separately to the EU's, so I suspect we are not 'front of the queue' on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 10m by end of the year: 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 On 23/09/2020 at 19:11, darrenm said: I don't understand why no-one else is mentioning that this will probably be a non issue by the new year because of at least one of the vaccines. I really tried to resist. I'm sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, bickster said: Insurance scare tactic. "I was going to a shop". Sounds like the biggest load of bollocks ever. I really, really wish that news organisations wouldn't write such obvious bollocks as the following in their pieces: Quote ... with people only allowed to leave their home for a specific reason. People can make journeys for medical needs, childcare or education, shopping for food and essentials, or to provide care for vulnerable people. The word 'essentials' does not appear in the regulations. There are a number of exceptions to the restrictions on leaving home and the exact wording of the exception for shopping is: Quote ...to buy goods or obtain services from any business or service listed in Part 3 of the Schedule, for P [the person] or those in the same household, vulnerable persons or persons in the same household as a vulnerable person. If a shop, that is permitted by law to be open, sells it then a person is permitted to leave their home to purchase it. Edited November 9, 2020 by snowychap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Would anyone even be remotely surprised if insurance companies attempted to take advantage? the whole thing is a racket anyway, can’t wait for them to justify their attempts to triple my policy next year as they do every year (try that is). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 1 hour ago, darrenm said: I really tried to resist. I'm sorry. Apart from the idea that it still has to be actually approved, we still need to know how effective it would be in terms of duration, even the optimistic tweets and so on quoted above have a limited run/order of the vaccine by the end of the year and even in to next year, &c. There's being optimistic and hoping and there's 'I'm sorry...' (but obviously not) whilst rather ignoring those parts of the story that are actually being relayed to us (by the manufacturers of a particular vaccine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) From the BBC article, for example: Quote However there are logistical challenges, as the vaccine has to be kept in ultra-cold storage at below minus 80C. ... Prof Peter Horby, from the University of Oxford. "It is a relief... there is a long long way to go before vaccines will start to make a real difference, but this feels to me like a watershed moment." Edited November 9, 2020 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 I look forward to the vaccine costing a couple of hundred a dose, with limited effective period, and for us all to discover in a few years time it causes sterility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It’s fantastic news about the vaccine. I’ve got 2 kids and have had the snip so jokes on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, snowychap said: Apart from the idea that it still has to be actually approved, we still need to know how effective it would be in terms of duration, even the optimistic tweets and so on quoted above have a limited run/order of the vaccine by the end of the year and even in to next year, &c. There's being optimistic and hoping and there's 'I'm sorry...' (but obviously not) whilst rather ignoring those parts of the story that are actually being relayed to us (by the manufacturers of a particular vaccine). Of course, there's caveats galore. Perhaps you take my comments a bit too seriously and literally. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Just now, darrenm said: Of course, there's caveats galore. Perhaps you take my comments a bit too seriously and literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 It''ll be really interesting to see the statistical properties of this trial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted November 9, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, villakram said: It''ll be really interesting to see the statistical properties of this trial. It's done Pfizer's share price no end of good so stick that in your statistical pipe and analyse it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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