trekka Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Do we think they'll be changing Xmas plans today based on this new strain? My wife is booked in for the Vaccine on Monday. It looks like something is happening. Boris, Whitty and Co. are holding a news conference at 4PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 From the Beeb: New virus variant 'can spread more rapidly', UK tells WHO The UK has informed the World Health Organization that the new variant of coronavirus can spread more quickly, the chief medical officer for England says. Prof Chris Whitty says the decision came as a result of preliminary modelling data and the rapidly rising incidence rates of the virus in the South East. But he says: "There is no current evidence to suggest the new strain causes a higher mortality rate or that it affects vaccines and treatments, although urgent work is under way to confirm this." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Is it tin foil hat stuff to wonder why we are the first country to really worry about this new strain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Is it tin foil hat stuff to wonder why we are the first country to really worry about this new strain? It is a strain that is unique to UK according to Whitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: It is a strain that is unique to UK according to Whitty. That just adds to it really. I just don't trust these words removed in charge at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: That just adds to it really. I just don't trust these words removed in charge at all. That's fine but please do trust Porton Down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: Very interesting to re-read this thread from the beginning. Too true. A lot of ignorance (unintentional, people really just didn't know) and just no idea what was to follow. Amazingly a lot of people seem to be coming out the other side going back to believing it's basically no biggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Johnson on the verge of doing what he accused Starmer of wanting to do just 3 days ago and cancelling Christmas for a large part of England. Stating the obvious I know but we are led by an idiot who changes policy and restrictions, in terms of covid, more often than I chance my pants*. He should never have stated what could and couldn't happen at Christmas weeks ago as it always seemed likely we would be in a worse place by then and so it has proved. Another case of over promising and having to back track and by doing so it now means a lot of people will simply ignore the rules. *I do change my pants at least once a day. Well most days. Edited December 19, 2020 by markavfc40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 London and SE to go into tier 4 (whatever that is). Just been leaked to the usual suspects viaTwitter To be announced at 4pm today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 45 minutes ago, trekka said: It looks like something is happening. Boris, Whitty and Co. are holding a news conference at 4PM. London and South East going into even higher 'tier 4' lockdown. I mean, they really screwed this up didn't they. They've had to move them from tier 2 to new higher tier in just a few days. Lots of people were questioning if the statistics warranted tier 2 for London and now that looks like they were right to question it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 I don't mind admitting to people that I just had a little weep on the phone to my elderly folks. They have gone to so much effort to make Christmas safe but memorable and it looks like (well for me living down in Portsmouth, at least) that Christmas may be cancelled. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 19, 2020 Moderator Share Posted December 19, 2020 So London will go from Tier 2 to Tier 3 to Tier 4 to Tier 1 and then back to Tier 4 over two weeks? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: So London will go from Tier 2 to Tier 3 to Tier 4 to Tier 1 and then back to Tier 4 over two weeks? That would be bonkers to relax measures over Christmas still so you are probably spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mandy Lifeboats Posted December 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: That would bonkers Allowing the Cheltenham Festival......Delaying Lockdown 1.......Delaying Lockdown 2......Incentives to crowd together in restaurants.....Not testing at airports.......Not insisting on Face Coverings.......Failing to enforce COVID restrictions.......Defending Cummings.....VE celebrations......Encouraging Foreign Holidays On Packed Planes......Discharging COVID patients to Care Homes......Not maintaining PPE stockpiles....,, Boris has never been against doing things that everyone else thinks are bonkers. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 Did they find this new tier down the back of the sofa? One more and we can bring the Nandos scale back. Bunch of clowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: Allowing the Cheltenham Festival......Delaying Lockdown 1.......Delaying Lockdown 2......Incentives to crowd together in restaurants.....Not testing at airports.......Not insisting on Face Coverings.......Failing to enforce COVID restrictions.......Defending Cummings.....VE celebrations......Encouraging Foreign Holidays On Packed Planes......Discharging COVID patients to Care Homes......Not maintaining PPE stockpiles....,, Boris has never been against doing things that everyone else thinks are bonkers. That’s a hell of a record, if he was a nurse or in charge of a care home he’d be down the station for questioning, with people booing and throwing shit at the police van. He’s lucky he’s just a funny one of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 Completely farcical. Spend the week bigging up the new 3 tier system, then amend it to make the 'tough' tier even tougher, then suddenly decide no actually the system is actually a 4 tier system. And the talk of a new lockdown is going already. Wonder if that will actually be a lockdown, or will it be the half arsed sop to doing something the last one was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 How long will the delay be... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) In tier 4, pubs can do takeaway pints, but only if the recipient can drink it all without touching the container. Gyms may remain open, but everyone inside must hold their breath. You can travel where you want to in order to see family, as long as you don't stay there for longer than the distance you've travelled in miles divided by the number of people you're meeting. Universities to remain open for in-person teaching, but once a week, the stupidest person on each course is to be expelled. Edited December 19, 2020 by Davkaus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2020 No following tier restrictions, by order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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