snowychap Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Coronavirus 'R' number in the North West is now above 1, new analysis shows Quote The North West’s R number has now risen above 1, the M.E.N. can reveal, meaning it now has the highest rate of Covid transmission in the country. Scientists from the Public Health England and Cambridge University have been tracking how the virus spreads - a number known as the ‘R’ value - throughout the pandemic and their latest analysis now shows every region hovering just below or just above the crucial 1 figure, the government’s crucial measure of whether the disease is under control. ... ...more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Genie said: They wait for the PPE crisis to pass before confirming the public should be wearing them... And that’s why they were telling us before not to wear them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Still a few still dying 357. It's not really consistantly coming down is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, foreveryoung said: Still a few still dying 357. It's not really consistantly coming down is it? new cases are flatlining as well and that could go up with the relaxation and breaking of the lockdown rules that has gone on in the last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, PaulC said: And that’s why they were telling us before not to wear them I understand that it’s just annoying that they were saying there was no evidence that they worked, while the rest of the world was using them. And now they’re saying we should all wear them. So clearly they do work. So they were lying again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I understand that it’s just annoying that they were saying there was no evidence that they worked, while the rest of the world was using them. And now they’re saying we should all wear them. So clearly they do work. So they were lying again Yes, the obvious follow up if they say “yes they are beneficial” is “where can I get them?” for which they had no answer. They didn’t even have enough for the NHS so couldn’t risk the public and businesses going into competition with the government for stock. Shameful (again). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Genie said: Yes, the obvious follow up if they say “yes they are beneficial” is “where can I get them?” for which they had no answer. They didn’t even have enough for the NHS so couldn’t risk the public and businesses going into competition with the government for stock. Shameful (again). If we're all supposed to be using them, you'd think that there would shelves stacked high with affordable masks in all supermarkets, wouldn't you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, mjmooney said: If we're all supposed to be using them, you'd think that there would shelves stacked high with affordable masks in all supermarkets, wouldn't you? I was in M&S the other day and they had piles of them, £3 for three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I was on site yesterday down in South East England. I was the only Person that brought mask and gloves. Really really surprised, the consensus from the others (1 Yorkshire, 2 local southerners, and 2 brummies) was that they felt ‘silly’ wearing masks. Couldn’t quite get my head around it. They also found it impossible to stay 2 metres apart. Two of them, that couldn’t be bothered to take basic preventative measures, work for companies that are going through redundancies because the lockdown has broken them economically. It’s like people are a little bit **** up in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I have a mask. My wife bought it for me to wear. If I actually leave the house to be in the company of others I will wear it. I think my wife is making me tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post snowychap Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Seat68 said: I have a mask. My wife bought it for me to wear. 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? As long as it's not your feather boa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: consensus from the others (1 Yorkshire, 2 local southerners, and 2 brummies) was that they felt ‘silly’ wearing masks. I think that's the case round here. Haven't seen masks for sale anywhere. I now finally have one - homemade by a local woman who is giving them away. I've started wearing it on my weekly trip to Morrison, but I'm in a tiny minority - most customers are behaving as if CV didn't exist - little or no attempt to distance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: I think that's the case round here. Haven't seen masks for sale anywhere. I now finally have one - homemade by a local woman who is giving them away. I've started wearing it on my weekly trip to Morrison, but I'm in a tiny minority - most customers are behaving as if CV didn't exist - little or no attempt to distance. Yeah I’m quite lucky my missus has always been in to sewing and making clothes (she made her own wedding dress!) so when we ran out of ‘proper’ masks she just made a few batches of material ones. I actually prefer my homemade masks to the usual site specific type. But I had to put the ‘proper’ one on for the office photo to prove I had all the kit! It’ll be interesting once crowds are back and the weather turns what the attitude of the authorities will be towards masking up. I think there will be elements of society that embrace the opportunity to wear a black mask with a black hoody in a large group of similar clad people. But there will also be people that feel ‘awkward’ as it’s a real cultural change for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? Yep, or one of those cowboy neckerchief things if that feels less awkward than a mask, or the hoolie’s favourite the motorbike scarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? worthless I would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 For a while (well, 3 weeks) I've been the only one (apart from literally the odd other person) in the supermarket wearing a mask. I popped there tonight and I'd say about a third of the people in there were wearing masks. SO the message is getting through I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? 7 minutes ago, PaulC said: worthless I would say Worthless in terms of would it actually protect you agreed. But good enough to abide by the rules I would have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: You reckon a scarf will be ok as a mask? You can get cheap snoods online. They might be better than a scarf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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