Popular Post Farlz Posted January 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2020 What exactly were people expecting for them to be underwhelmed by this? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffGreens Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bugzy1991 said: Pretty clear correlation between ability+potential and price. Without going too off topic, this came up in one of the more useful bits of research from Soccernomics. There isn't generally a correlation between transfer fees and eventual league position (a clubs wage bill was more closely aligned to league positions). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said: Samatta has 3 goals in 6 CL appearances. Scored against Liverpool too in that game. That alone should give us some hope he will be half decent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bugzy1991 said: This just standard in football now. Scouting is less common and a lot of teams have a team of analysts who sort through opta stats to judge players on who they should sign. Thousands of players are decided what they're like by stat tables. Would hope club analysts would go a bit more in-depth but it is just a Twitter account. I can understand looking at stats to decide whether a player is worth a look at. After that it comes down to old fashioned scouts opinion.....how else can it happen. I'm sure many teams sign players without watching them closely over a period of time but why? Also how do they decide if a player is good enough to step up in standard from a lower league to Prem or La Liga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post omariqy Posted January 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 16, 2020 I actually have seen him play!!! Against Liverpool. He was one of the better players on the pitch (on both sides). 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjaacckk91 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 The guy has a better than 1 in 3 and close to 1 in 2 record at almost everywhere he's played, even internationally. Of course it's a gamble because he's not played in the top leagues, but at least he knows where the goal is. Hopefully this all gets tidied up soon, should be a straightforward work permit with 51 international apps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 If we get him in I think he’ll do well, even if he doesn’t score loads, if he assists a few then our attacking play that will help. His speed is good which at the very least will give us another dimension to our play. Unfortunately we have lacked pace upfront this season something which Samatta will bring. He has 9 goals in 12 Europa league appearances last season. 3 goals in 6 for the champions league is decent too. We’re apparently also looking at Llorente or Slimani too which means we have a decent strike force for the rest of the season. Had we got Samatta in addition to Wesley in the summer I believe Wesley would have improved quicker and benefited from having someone like Samatta around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, mykeyb said: That alone should give us some hope he will be half decent. Im going to watch the Liverpool Genk game later to see how his movement was in that game and how he performed against Van Dyke. ( yes im a saddo ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: WTF does that even mean? Attacking output? He scored 32 goals in all comps last season, isn't that enough output? Huh, that smarterscout thing seems interesting. I think I'll go grab a membership and maybe I can figure out how they calculate attacking output. Edited January 16, 2020 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) Edit he plays for Genk not Bruges, ignore me Edited January 16, 2020 by sharkyvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 16, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, Farlz said: What exactly were people expecting for them to be underwhelmed by this? a mate just said on our group chat "would wolves have signed him?" it sucks that we're so far down in the table, it really does. but we are a big club in name only, we have to be realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Laughable Chimp said: Huh, that smarterscout thing seems interesting. I think I'll go grab a membership and maybe I can figure out how they calculate attacking output. It's questioning his 'attacking output' but he scored 32 goals last season and has 10 goals so far this season. Looks stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Theres a chant with his name and the agadoo song, just not creative enough to come up with the lines other than Samata-ta-ta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, jamdog said: I like this one but try this, for the pessimistic: Hopefully @villaanalytics on twitter can ease some worries when they do a thread later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Against Liverpool at home Genk had 25% possession but had 8 shots to Liverpool’s 17. At anfield Liverpool had more shots with slightly less possession. In that game Samatta scored which was one of 6 shots total from 28% possession. I’ll report back with what I saw from him in the games. Obviously im not an expert on such things but it’s interesting me because a few members have written him off already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: It's questioning his 'attacking output' but he scored 32 goals last season and has 10 goals so far this season. Looks stupid. It's adapted for the PL. His output in Belgium would be incredibly high I'd guess. Their modelling is reliable. All these are just numbers though, performances on the pitch matter above all else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, Bugzy1991 said: Yup. And Leicester signed kante and mahrez on cheap also. Gems exist out there. But for every gem for these prices there are way more duds. Let's hope he's got good movement and tries hard. Pretty clear correlation between ability+potential and price. Mahrez £400,000 from LeHavre, I think. crazy we must be due a bit of luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Tomaszk said: It's adapted for the PL. His output in Belgium would be incredibly high I'd guess. Their modelling is reliable. All these are just numbers though, performances on the pitch matter above all else. Reliable based on what? So then most forwards in the lesser leagues would have a lower than average 'attacking output', making the insights totally moot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, tomav84 said: a mate just said on our group chat "would wolves have signed him?" it sucks that we're so far down in the table, it really does. but we are a big club in name only, we have to be realistic. Neccessity, is the mother of Invention. They don't have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Farlz said: What exactly were people expecting for them to be underwhelmed by this? Lewandowski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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