Panto_Villan Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, blandy said: The whole "operation" could be scaled back enormously, with benefits for everyone, including the Windsor family themselves. As an absolute minimum the whole thing needs some serious reconfiguring. Say what you like about Charles, but he does seem to have grasped this. Apparently his plans for a slimmed down royal family were one of the main points of conflict with Harry and Meghan - their children weren’t going to get titles. I think limiting the royals to the children of the current monarch and those in line to the throne does make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Although for me the actual personalities of the Royal family is not the main reason why it needs to be abolished. Have the pro royal family posters on here considered that for 30 years Andrew was a heartbeat away from being heir to the throne. Could anyone think that King Andrew and Queen Fergie would be a good idea?The only positive about it would be that it might speed up its eventual demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 18, 2022 26 minutes ago, Only2McInallys said: Although for me the actual personalities of the Royal family is not the main reason why it needs to be abolished. Have the pro royal family posters on here considered that for 30 years Andrew was a heartbeat away from being heir to the throne. Could anyone think that King Andrew and Queen Fergie would be a good idea?The only positive about it would be that it might speed up its eventual demise. Instead we have King Charles III, Monarch of the MiddleEastern bung Hep the nonce is worse but Charles is hardly Mr Squeeky Clean himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Not to mention homeopathy for cattle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Only2McInallys said: Although for me the actual personalities of the Royal family is not the main reason why it needs to be abolished. Have the pro royal family posters on here considered that for 30 years Andrew was a heartbeat away from being heir to the throne. Could anyone think that King Andrew and Queen Fergie would be a good idea?The only positive about it would be that it might speed up its eventual demise. Indeed. The common retort is "better than president Boris/Truss/Blair", but really? Given the choice, I'll take a short-term self-serving bellend we get to pick rather than a bellend for life, born into the right family. Added to that, with the only real role of our monarchs is to be publicly seen but not heard, and modern British politics trending towards the cult of leader personalities, head to head debates, etc, the PM becoming more and more "presidential" so we're basically ending up with the worst of both worlds anyway. An elected president with term limits also probably wouldn't have the stealth influence in the background, kept as far from prying eyes as possible. Edited September 18, 2022 by Davkaus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: Indeed. The common retort is "better than president Boris/Truss/Blair", but really? Given the choice, I'll take a short-term self-serving bellend we get to pick rather than a bellend for life, born into the right family. Added to that, with the only real role of our monarchs is to be publicly seen but not heard, and modern British politics trending towards the cult of leader personalities, head to head debates, etc, the PM becoming more and more "presidential" so we're basically ending up with the worst of both worlds anyway. An elected president with term limits also probably wouldn't have the stealth influence in the background, kept as far from prying eyes as possible. Yes agree.The other thing that is not often mentioned is that Royal family members could stand in any presidential election.I would have no problem with the Queen as president and she would probably have won any election but it wouldn’t automatically pass to her children and she could be removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Only2McInallys said: I would have no problem with the Queen as president and she would probably have won any election This is really interesting to think about. You think about her vs Truss and yeah, it does seem like the election would be weeks of politicians running their mouths and tying themselves in knots, only for Buckingham Palace to say "our candidate has no comment to make, but we will remind you that she's the Queen". Absolute landslide. Public opinion would inevitably have changed when the Queen was a figure that could be publicly debated with and criticised rather than a silent unaccountable figure with very few publicly disclosed opinions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted September 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just can’t **** wait for this to end. Schofield Queuegate, Harry uniformgate, nonce uniform/participation gate, queue queue queue, Charles pengate, Meghan is an awful human for doing [insert totally innocuous act], etc. I didn’t mind the queen as she was excellent as a constitutional monarch. The whole thing can now get in the bin. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 What we gonna do tomorrow with this on all day, plus replays. I have respect, but I'm not interested in watching, it'll be one of the most boring days since birth for me, even my builders are having a day off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted September 18, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) As I mentioned in the Relationships thread, it's our wedding anniversary today, and we're having a mini break in N. Yorks/NE coast. So, we're in the hotel restaurant, and at 8.00pm they announce a minute's silence and ask us to stand. Sigh. OK. Only thing was, they forgot to turn off the piped music... "Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you now..." Deliciously farcical. Edited September 18, 2022 by mjmooney 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mjmooney said: As I mentioned in the Relationships thread, it's our wedding anniversary today, and we're having a mini break up in N. Yorks/NE coast. So, we're in the hotel restaurant, and at 8.00pm they announce a minute's silence and ask us to stand. Sigh. OK. Only thing was, they forgot to turn off the piped music... "Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you now..." Deliciously farcical. We all need a break now and again, bit harsh to do it on your anniversary though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: What we gonna do tomorrow with this on all day, plus replays. I'll probably have to do a bit of work. Our teams in India are working as normal so I'll need to speak to them on a few things. Hopefully they can catch up on some paperwork of mine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2022 Just now, foreveryoung said: We all need a break now and again, bit harsh to do it on your anniversary though. I've edited it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 It might be an unflattering image but she looks like she could be his mum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted September 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: It might be an unflattering image but she looks like she could be his mum I was just thinking that! Jack using the death of a Monarch as a ruse to rattle the back doors of an older woman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted September 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2022 Did anybody do the 8pm silence this evening? Or notice anybody participating? Or anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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