Davkaus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Genie said: 12:30 under medical supervision, but alive (comfortable). 16:30 PM has been told the Queen has died. 18:20 The public are told the Queen has died. The crux of the matter, I guess, is what Truss and Starmer were told that made them look shellshocked, and lead to Starmer going to get changed. Could be "She's dead", could be "She's not making the evening and being kept on until the family see her, get ready". I doubt we'll ever know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yep, then 2 week IB. Next game 2nd October What a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Genie said: 12:30 under medical supervision, but alive (comfortable). 16:30 PM has been told the Queen has died. 18:20 The public are told the Queen has died. Yeah, although I respect that's the official timeline although the PM was told at 1630 the Queen had passed that doesn't necessarily mean that's when the Queen had passed. It could have been anytime between 1230 and 1630. I'm also of the opinion that the PM shouldn't have put a time on it, she has a history of speaking before her brain has engaged (Whilst Prison's Minister the "Drones have been scared off by barking dogs" springs to mind. Whilst the point was pretty clear the wording was pretty awful). So the official timeline from when the queen passed is merely the "Afternoon" as is the official statement, but I'm with Brumerican, I wouldn't be surprised if it had happened pre 1230 and was stage managed purely to lessen the impact of the news in order to get the public used to the idea and accepting of it, or perhaps to allow the processes and protocols to get rolling, such as having people in place to lower flags at half mast, amongst countless other things we wouldn't think of. Edited September 9, 2022 by DeadlyDirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, DeadlyDirk said: Yeah, although I respect that's the official timeline although the PM was told at 1630 the Queen had passed that doesn't necessarily mean that's when the Queen had passed. It could have been anytime between 1230 and 1630. I'm also of the opinion that the PM shouldn't have put a time on it, she has a history of speaking before her brain has engaged (Whilst Prison's Minister the "Drones have been scared off by barking dogs" springs to mind. Whilst the point was pretty clear the wording was pretty awful). So the official timeline from when the queen passed is merely the "Afternoon" as is the official statement, but I'm with Brumerican, I wouldn't be surprised if it was stage managed purely to lessen the impact of the news in order to get the public used to the idea and accepting of it. It’s all feasible yes. I’d assume the PM is told quite close to the actual time of death, so closer to 16:30 than 12:30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: It’s all feasible yes. I’d assume the PM is told quite close to the actual time of death, so closer to 16:30 than 12:30. Ministers tell "mistruths" all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if she was told way before 1630. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UpTheVilla26 Posted September 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 I think the fact BBC news cut in around lunchtime and carried on airing, told us she was either dead or close to it. You could tell they were just waiting for the green light to make it official. I'm a bit miffed though, cos the red team had just brought some shyte clock for £70 on bargain hunt and I've been wandering all day how it got on at auction. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, DeadlyDirk said: Ministers tell "mistruths" all the time, I wouldn't be surprised if she was told way before 1630. She might have said it herself, but I personally picked it up by the media saying “the PM was advised of her passing at 16:30”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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a m ole Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Wonder if anyone floated the idea of renaming it Queen’s Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, StefanAVFC said: Football -> No Cricket -> Yes What the **** is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: That website isn't for Kings Cross station. Tbf, it's hard to tell right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just now, Genie said: Football -> No Cricket -> Yes What the **** is going on? The FA is run by profoundly unserious people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted September 9, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: The FA is run by profoundly unserious people Tbf The FA is doing what its told as is the EWCB It's what they are being told to do that is bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Cricket and rugby still going ahead, but no football. Methinks some dickhead jumped the gun and are probably feeling pretty stupid right now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: The FA is run by profoundly unserious people The Queen’s grandson has a lot to answer for (I know he doesn’t have a real job there). Even kids football, would the Queen have wanted all the kids to be sat at home this weekend or out playing sports and enjoying themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted September 9, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 9, 2022 Even if it is true that she died in the afternoon, the fact the Commons was pointedly informed and a statement released saying she was comfortable (a classic euphemism for 'not in pain' i e. Incapacitated/dead) and the beginnings of the protocols for her death put in place immediately suggests it was less 'doctors are caring for her after a bad turn in her health' and more 'the Queen's out of it and she will die very shortly'. Given everything else I suspect it was a case of her having gone in her sleep. The rest of it is just people running around getting the processes around her death in place whilst the details are kept quiet and the various channels are engaged with and updated as required. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, KentVillan said: I have this guy on my Facebook. He made it up, but the Daily Mail still ran with the story He also made up a new Ryan Giggs poem the other week that they ran with too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Just heard shouts of ‘security’ ‘security’ whilst they’re showing Charles meeting people outside of the Palace live. Wonder if it was just someone being over exuberant or something worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Genie Posted September 9, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Just heard shouts of ‘security’ ‘security’ whilst they’re showing Charles meeting people outside of the Palace live. Wonder if it was just someone being over exuberant or something worse? He was stabbed in the early hours of this morning but due to the logistics of reporting such an incident he’s now having to reenact it for the protocol. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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