maqroll Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Not sure what the fix is for this phenomenon. Should IG and Twitter users be forced to publicly ID themselves to gain use of the sites? Should users be able to have accounts that don't allow commenting? Is that even possible? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, maqroll said: Not sure what the fix is for this phenomenon. Should IG and Twitter users be forced to publicly ID themselves to gain use of the sites? Should users be able to have accounts that don't allow commenting? Is that even possible? Yes, the latter is possible. I think the answer on identities is probably not the answer, it'd stop things like twitter being used to overthrow dictators, was central in the Arab Spring. But I don't know what the answer is in order to quickly identify individuals, most people leave more than enough bread crumbs to be identified by. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 On 24/02/2021 at 11:02, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I've started to realise that alot of these little cretins are just reaching for their 15 mins of fame. This is a hot topic now, so they know it's the way to get the attention and adrenaline rush they crave. Might be time to stop the kneeling as some other players have suggested and stand tall, maybe do a Black Panther fist to piss them off even more. I commented on Facebook that it wouldn't surprise me if some of these clowns weren't even actually racist, just adrenaline junkies getting their fix. Winding people up on social media is a new contactless, anonymous sport. For me, personally, this sort of thing doesn't get to me. However, I worry for the mental health of some of these young, fragile kids of colour . The agenda might be having the opposite effect, as you know " rebelling " is so " cool " for kids I think you make a good point JV....The danger is a very worthwhile campaign is being high jacked by people with their own agenda. There are some good comments on You tube from Denzel Washington and he touches on the subject from a slightly different angle....worth a listen. The subject is so complex and therefore easily manipulated by those who have their own agenda. The thing we must all remember is, not all white folk think the same and not all black folk think the same.....but most bullies think the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2021 the fact that the messages are not intercepted in some way has to be an issue first and foremost. even on here, certain words are altered to something less offensive. it would be a piece of piss to stop messages containing certain words not finding their way to their intended recipient. i saw tyreik's insta where he showed the messages. all the usual slurs were there. how have those messages not been intercepted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 FWIW villa had the most arrests for online hate crimes last year (im sure its the 1st year they've included it in the figures) the players take a knee every week but have the club done any kind of initiative or campaign to tackle it? genuine question because i havent seen anything from them, now would be the time because its a problem of ours too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddywhack Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, tomav84 said: the fact that the messages are not intercepted in some way has to be an issue first and foremost. even on here, certain words are altered to something less offensive. it would be a piece of piss to stop messages containing certain words not finding their way to their intended recipient. i saw tyreik's insta where he showed the messages. all the usual slurs were there. how have those messages not been intercepted? Yeah, the social media platforms should definitely be doing more. I'm not sold on the idea of having to give them our driving licence or passport numbers, but I once called Piers Morgan the C word on twitter and within seconds was given a 24 hour ban. I'm not saying that's the correct punishment for people sending racist abuse, it just shows more can be done. Having said all that, part of me thinks it's a bit like receiving abuse through the mail and having a go at the Royal Mail. It's not really getting to the root of he problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 26, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2021 58 minutes ago, Paddywhack said: Yeah, the social media platforms should definitely be doing more. I'm not sold on the idea of having to give them our driving licence or passport numbers, but I once called Piers Morgan the C word on twitter and within seconds was given a 24 hour ban. I'm not saying that's the correct punishment for people sending racist abuse, it just shows more can be done. Having said all that, part of me thinks it's a bit like receiving abuse through the mail and having a go at the Royal Mail. It's not really getting to the root of he problem. driving licenses and passports wouldn't work. online bookmakers do it to verify age, but social media platforms would never adopt it because their active members would be cut by...what, 3 quarters? probably more? the fact is there will always be racists. you will never get to the root of the problem. it's like saying too many car accidents on a particular road due to people driving too quickly, so lets get to the root of the problem as to why people are driving so fast. it's just always going to happen. so you need controls in place to mitigate that, i.e a speed bump in the road to slow people down. there doesn't seem to be a similar control in place on social media. it's just all reactive...waiting until someone has committed an offence before taking action. in your example, your tweet shouldn't have been allowed to be sent (piers morgan is one though, i'm not disputing that at all!) just like messages that contain the N word. those messages never should have found their way to tyreik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 11 hours ago, TRO said: The subject is so complex and therefore easily manipulated by those who have their own agenda. Like most things in today's society mate, ranging from politics through to just about everything else. It's why I always try to see both ( All ) sides of an argument/opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 1 hour ago, tomav84 said: driving licenses and passports wouldn't work. online bookmakers do it to verify age, but social media platforms would never adopt it because their active members would be cut by...what, 3 quarters? probably more? thats before you look at the infrastructure and cost of what they would need to protect that kind of data i would guess thats the main reason, social media companies want as little responsibility when it comes to handling personal data and therefore data protection as they can get away with, they dont want your driving license on file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Like most things in today's society mate, ranging from politics through to just about everything else. It's why I always try to see both ( All ) sides of an argument/opinion. so do I......Its called Intelligence. I think we maybe the only species that does consider others.....but if some people have a low level of it, you cannot legislate, for every one of them....we just have to try and tolerate them. Edited February 26, 2021 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Starts tonight for Walsall, Dimitri Sea who he will have played with for our U23s, is on the bench for Barrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, useless said: Starts tonight for Walsall, Dimitri Sea who he will have played with for our U23s, is on the bench for Barrow. Sea always had a great name I thought. For some reason I always thought he was French, but I assume he's English since he plays in the lower leagues still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Sea is apparently French, according to transfermarkt we signed him from AC Boulogne-Billancourt Youth. Barrow are his first club since leaving us in the summer, I guess there was always a good chance he could end up at another English team, as presumably it would have been mostly scouts from English teams watching him for our academy sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 27, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2021 His Instagram says that he scored on his Ireland U21 debut tonight, although match reports I can find don't have him listed as scoring. Whichever, congratulations on the debut! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 27, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2021 Whole game is here, he comes of the bench on 68 minutes. I presume he's claiming a touch on the first one after about 76 minutes. The winner is bizarre, a backpass that sneaked in while the keeper was getting a drink. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 2, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted April 2, 2021 Started today and won Walsall a penalty in the first half. (They missed it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 I have never seen him play or even know his best position but he is a better option that Trez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OutByEaster? Posted April 5, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted April 5, 2021 Starts again for Walsall today. 0-0 at half time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Does he have potential to be a player here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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