roonst83 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I believe Norwich have way more talent than Southampton and will pose much more of a threat. Sadly. We lack any plan, any fight or any confidence. Dreading this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) Bit early for this, but we must try something different now. Will never happen, but I would go with something like this: ————————————Heaton———————————— ——————Konsa———Engels———Hause————— Elmo Targett Luiz Nakamba Grealish Wesley Kodjia Subs: Nyland, Chester, Guilbert, Lansbury, Hourihane, El G, Jota 5-3-2 without the ball. 3-5-2 with the ball. Edited December 21, 2019 by ferguson1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Another pathetic, shameful defeat. 2-1 to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Even a draw won't be enough in this for me long term but obviously a bit better than another awful loss like today. Will go for 2-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Not sure i can even bring myself to attend this time, i want to enjoy my Christmas not feel like i have done the last couple of home games. Surely a loss again such is the state of the team currently and Norwich will be out to avenge our win at theirs no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Dreading this. Another 3-1 loss i'm afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 21, 2019 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, ferguson1 said: Bit early for this, but we must try something different now. Will never happen, but I would go with something like this: ————————————Heaton———————————— ——————Konsa———Engels———Hause————— Elmo Targett Luiz Nakamba Grealish Wesley Kodjia I came to post almost exactly the same team. I think with Mings out, we simply don't have enough quality at centre half to make one of the other pairings work - I'd play all three in the hope of some sort of solidity - playing at wing back will be a challenge for Targett who prefers to work with someone ahead of him, but Grealish will drift out there anyway. I'd play Guilbert rather than Elmo; playing with no one in front helping at all will not be a new experience for him as he's used to having El Ghazi. Luiz and Nakamba can then hold and hopefully make us that bit more solid - Grealish can go where he likes and be more involved, Wesley can link up play and Kodjia can think about making himself look good. It's a bit more route one - a bit more launch it into the corners and see, a bit less team- a bit more defend-and-give-it-to-Jack - back to basics if you like. I don't think it's the future, but I think given our current position it might be a good idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I came to post almost exactly the same team. I think with Mings out, we simply don't have enough quality at centre half to make one of the other pairings work - I'd play all three in the hope of some sort of solidity - playing at wing back will be a challenge for Targett who prefers to work with someone ahead of him, but Grealish will drift out there anyway. I'd play Guilbert rather than Elmo; playing with no one in front helping at all will not be a new experience for him as he's used to having El Ghazi. Luiz and Nakamba can then hold and hopefully make us that bit more solid - Grealish can go where he likes and be more involved, Wesley can link up play and Kodjia can think about making himself look good. I don't think it's the future, but I think given our current position it might be a good idea. The CB pairing is the one area I worry about the most with Mings out. I thought Hause would be that steel, but now i’m doubting he has it in him. At least with 3 CB’s playing you’d hope each will cover the other. Like you say, it’s not the future, it’s purely to stop the rot and keep some clean sheets. I picked Elmo for this game simply on his experience, which I think is needed and the fact that he’s still the best crosser of a ball in the club. The other niggle for me was seeing if we could accommodate Jota somewhere? I love his eye for a pass, but having him in the team at this level just appears to weaken us somewhat. I’m dreading the game if I’m honest. They will really want to show us what was missing at Carrow Road and I doubt we’re up for the fight. Do we have eleven players that want to scrap for the right to play? Big few days for Smith and his team that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 21, 2019 Moderator Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: The CB pairing is the one area I worry about the most with Mings out. I thought Hause would be that steel, but now i’m doubting he has it in him. At least with 3 CB’s playing you’d hope each will cover the other. Like you say, it’s not the future, it’s purely to stop the rot and keep some clean sheets. Absolutely agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bojong Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The first must win of the season. I'd try: Heaton Guilbert, Konsa, Engels, Targett Nakamba Grealish Hourihane Trezeguet El Ghazi Kodjia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I advocated 3-5-2 for the Sheffield Utd game, thought with Mings out and the way the blades set up it was a perfect time to try it, this game I'm not too sure but one things for certain we need to try something or it will be another horrible day at Villa Park. Teams have completely figured out how to get at us and it is imperative that we put a stop to it with some kind of formation or personnel change. This is a massive, massive game and I think we need some experience to guide us over the line therefore I'd recall Chester and Elmohamady for this and see if we can be more solid. I'd go; Heaton Elmo Chester Konsa Targett Nakamba Luiz Grealish Jota Wesley Kodjia I think the limitations in our squad are there to see, and in the team above, but what we all want to see is more desire, more passion, more hunger and more fight, today was a bad day and we need to bounce back and show these traits because if we do I still think we are genuinely good enough to stay up! UTV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I would go with a 4411. We need to bring in someone who can help Grealish with the creativity around the box, and allow Wesley to play off the shoulder of the last man. For me, I would bring in Jota, as he and Grealish have a great connection, and someone who can pick a pass as well as score some goals. He can also help connect the center mids with Wesley that is not happening at the minute. His lack of pace won't be as noticeable in the middle as it will out wide. I would bring Chester into the back four, we need his leadership, even if it is for just one game at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottaloo Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I am back in the office on 26th dec (on my own) but consoled myself with the fact that I could watch it on my iPad via Amazon prime....in fact, i saw it as a highlight of my day. Now.....NOW I'm almost dreading it and can see a messy 1-2 to them. I know others have already said it but we are firmly in the sh1t now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 15 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: I came to post almost exactly the same team. I think with Mings out, we simply don't have enough quality at centre half to make one of the other pairings work - I'd play all three in the hope of some sort of solidity - playing at wing back will be a challenge for Targett who prefers to work with someone ahead of him, but Grealish will drift out there anyway. I'd play Guilbert rather than Elmo; playing with no one in front helping at all will not be a new experience for him as he's used to having El Ghazi. Luiz and Nakamba can then hold and hopefully make us that bit more solid - Grealish can go where he likes and be more involved, Wesley can link up play and Kodjia can think about making himself look good. It's a bit more route one - a bit more launch it into the corners and see, a bit less team- a bit more defend-and-give-it-to-Jack - back to basics if you like. I don't think it's the future, but I think given our current position it might be a good idea. Almost identical for me too, but I would put Chester in instead of Engels, more experience to hold the three together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Norwich really are a bag of shit. We spanked them at their place so anything less than a win on Boxing Day should see Smith sacked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 At the moment I have no confidence in this team at all, and I am afraid I am expecting a defeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roonst83 Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 The movement and craft of Cantwell along with how Pukki gets behind the defence and the quality of Aarons and Buendia really worries me. We’re a wounded animal and if Norwich had any sense they’d look at the Leicester game and Saints game and hurt us. Need a reaction. Praying we get one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Heaton Elmo Chester Hause Targett Luiz Grealish Hourihane Trez Kodjia El Ghazi This team screams Championship, but at the moment it's the best we have. We need some stability at the back, Chester is the most experienced centre back and should be able to organise things. Guilbert was shocking yesterday, Elmo needs to come back into the side. Midfield is any from Luiz, Hourihane or Nakamba. Personally thought Nakamba was poor yesterday. Grealish has to be in the middle. Time to give Kodjia a run up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I see that a defeatist attitude has set in in this thread so I’ll try and spread some positivity. My team would be: Heaton Guilbert Engels Konsa Targett Luiz Nakamba Grealish El Ghazi Wesley Trezeguet Bench: Steer, Elmohamady, Taylor, Hause, Lansbury, Davis, Kodjia They have some very good players, it will be a challenge, no doubt. We’ll have to watch out for Pukki, Cantwell, Aarons and Lewis especially. I think we can stifle them, we’re due a win and performance at Villa Park 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Don't care who plays how we play who plays where or what formation we employ, all that matters is winning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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