The Hung Like a Donkey General Election December 2019 Thread

[Awol]

Just now, snowychap said:

No need, Jon - that's a fair enough cross section though there is certainly one that I'd strike a line through.

Apologies if that came across as more confrontational than intended. It was genuinely meant to get a picture of who these people were.

None needed, I'm quite well oiled and slowing down now... If your objection is to Goodwin I highly recommend his book "National Populism: The revolt against Liberal Democracy". Rammed with insights.

Tories have taken Workington comfortably.

[Risso]

Twitter says Ian Lavery survives by skin of his teeth.

[Awol]

Just now, Risso said:

Twitter says Ian Lavery survives by skin of his teeth.

Bugger. He's a slimy, thieving sod.

[snowychap]

2 minutes ago, Awol said:

If your objection is to Goodwin

More apologies, I edited my post - and thus hasn't aligned with your reply.

More Kaufmann and then Goodwin.

[Awol]

Tories take Darlo. F*** my old boots.

[snowychap]

3 minutes ago, Risso said:

Twitter says Ian Lavery survives by skin of his teeth.

That is a shame.

He's a shit.

[Awol]

Just now, snowychap said:

More apologies, I edited my post - and thus hasn't aligned with your reply.

More Kaufmann and then Goodwin.

Have you read White Shift? 

[snowychap]

Just now, Awol said:

Tories take Darlo. F*** my old boots.

Not that much of a suprise - even the rejigged MRP had it Tory by 6 percent.

[Awol]

Just now, snowychap said:

Not that much of a suprise - even the rejigged MRP had it Tory by 6 percent.

Seeing the polls and seeing the reality is still jarring though!

[Risso]

Workington makes Darlo look like Milan!

[snowychap]

2 minutes ago, Awol said:

Have you read White Shift? 

No, so I'm not going to comment on what it might or might not say.

I have read various musings by yer man Kaufmann, though - largely directed by his own tweets. I have to say I'm loath to read much more that he has written on the basis of what I have already read that he has written.

He's in the Douglas Murray category for me.

 

[bobzy]

Just to confirm, our country is ****. 

[Awol]

Just now, bobzy said:

Just to confirm, our country is ****. 

There's five stars in great. 

[Awol]

3 minutes ago, snowychap said:

No, so I'm not going to comment on what it might or might not say.

I have read various musings by yer man Kaufmann, though - largely directed by his own tweets. I have to say I'm loath to read much more that he has written on the basis of what I have already read that he has written.

He's in the Douglas Murray category for me.

 

Fair enough, I think there's often more to learn from people you disagree with than those you don't. 

[bobzy]

1 minute ago, Awol said:

There's five stars in great. 

Nah, this is terrible. We’ve had a massive divide in society, and little England has won. Awful. 

[Awol]

1 minute ago, bobzy said:

Nah, this is terrible. We’ve had a massive divide in society, and little England has won. Awful. 

Who's fault is that? If Labour hadn't presented such a god-awful choice they'd have strolled into No.10. Instead they disappeared up their collective backsides and made the voters decision for them. 

For anyone on that team a little self-reflection will go a long way in the coming months. The alternative is dissolving the electorate and getting a new one.

[Risso]

Everybody's favourite Mark Francois back in.

[snowychap]

5 minutes ago, Awol said:

Fair enough, I think there's often more to learn from people you disagree with than those you don't. 

That's a fair point but there's only so much that I find objectionable that I can put up with hearing.

I also think this is slightly overplayed in an 'understand your enemy so you can defeat him' kind of way that shouldn't have to apply to simple discourse.

[bobzy]

3 minutes ago, Awol said:

Who's fault is that? If Labour hadn't presented such a god-awful choice they'd have strolled into No.10. Instead they disappeared up their collective backsides and made the voters decision for them. 

For anyone on that team a little self-reflection will go a long way in the coming months. The alternative is dissolving the electorate and getting a new one.

Who’s fault?

The public. Same with the leave vote. The general public are **** words removed. They don’t care. 

Edited December 13, 2019 by bobzy

[snowychap]

2 minutes ago, Risso said:

Everybody's favourite Mark Francois back in.

Missed the obvious 'squeezed back in'.