Guest av1 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, jonjon said: It's Xmas time, not April 1st Exactly. A time for charity and goodwill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, useless said: Pedro has said that he wants to go back to Barcelona, he might not get that wish, but looks like he has higher ambitions than joining a club in a relegation battle. Bacuna wanted to go to the Champions League..... so.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 19, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2019 Haha we're not signing Pedro... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted December 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Haha we're not signing Pedro... 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, jonjon said: Thank you, I thought as much as it seems strange he can't get into the Preston team, Alex Neil obviously agrees as well, hopefully we will avoid that one!!! I think you underestimate how good you lot are at developing players. Andre Green seems like just the kind of value buy you are famous for. I mean that as a compliment. Edited December 20, 2019 by ciggiesnbeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted December 20, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, ciggiesnbeer said: I think you underestimate how good you lot are at developing players. Andre Green seems like just the kind of value buy you are famous for. I mean that as a compliment. I know that we develop players year in year out to a high standard, hence we sell on for a good profit, our problem is a small revenue from a small ground, we have to survive by selling our best developed players, but at some time that must stop if we we are to make the Premiership, hopefully moving to our new stadium next season will help our revenue stream. Regards Andre Green, he does seem like a player who would fit our mould, and it looks good on paper, but if we lose a forward in January we need a player who is match fit and can hit the ground running if we are to maintain and keep our current position, all he's done at Preston is bench warm and had hardly any matches under his belt, I wonder why? How do you Villa supporters rate him and could he do a job for us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 A Pedro move would depend on if he prefers to play football for a team struggling or sit on the bench for the rest of the season. I doubt he will get a big move in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 9 hours ago, PieFacE said: Haha we're not signing Pedro... Australia got David Vila.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 @jonjon I had really high hopes for Green but then he just seemed to hit a wall confidence wise and be unwilling to take anyone on. I still think he’ll have a decent career but god knows at what level. I agree that he’s not ready to go straight into your team with you chasing promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, A'Villan said: Australia got David Vila.. On loan...for four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Green would be an astute signing for someone on a free or at a cut price, this idea that he isn't very good because he can't get into the Preston team is too simplistic a way of looking at it, sometimes players just don't suit certain managers, even the Preston fans rate him and are confused as to why he hasn't had more game time or why they loaned him in in the first place, it's also worth bearing in mind that they have some decent players who play in his position. They're not world beaters, but I remember the way people wrote off some of our other academy products like the likes of Enda Stevens, Hogg, Albrighton, Bannan, Robinson, Johnson and others as not being good enough for us, but over the last five or so seasons they would have all been useful players for us to have had in our squads at various stages, even now if you were to attempt to buy that lot it would cost tens of millions. Rather than just letting Green go for free, or next to nothing, we'd be better off giving him a contract and loaning him to another club who will play him, then I'm certain that he will perform well enough that we'd get more money for him, or well enough to get back into our team, especially if the dreaded spectre of relegation visits our door once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, jonjon said: I know that we develop players year in year out to a high standard, hence we sell on for a good profit, our problem is a small revenue from a small ground, we have to survive by selling our best developed players, but at some time that must stop if we we are to make the Premiership, hopefully moving to our new stadium next season will help our revenue stream. Regards Andre Green, he does seem like a player who would fit our mould, and it looks good on paper, but if we lose a forward in January we need a player who is match fit and can hit the ground running if we are to maintain and keep our current position, all he's done at Preston is bench warm and had hardly any matches under his belt, I wonder why? How do you Villa supporters rate him and could he do a job for us? He definitely isn't an instant fix. He has all the attributes of a good winger or striker it is just he had a lot of injuries that really hurt his confidence so now he is quite hesitant to try and beat his man. I think if you are getting him he is definitely one for next season where your training staff can help him get his feet back under him. However I do think he is good enough as a player in the championship but he would need an extended run if games to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted December 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2019 Aubameyang wants out at Arsenal. Cheeky bid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted December 20, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2019 18 hours ago, jonjon said: Thank you, I thought as much as it seems strange he can't get into the Preston team, Alex Neil obviously agrees as well, hopefully we will avoid that one!!! TBH if you got him for peanuts he would be well worth it. He has the raw ingredients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjon Posted December 20, 2019 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, useless said: Rather than just letting Green go for free, or next to nothing, we'd be better off giving him a contract and loaning him to another club who will play him, then I'm certain that he will perform well enough that we'd get more money for him, or well enough to get back into our team, especially if the dreaded spectre of relegation visits our door once again. That counts us out then as we don't do loans, our management policy is "why should we develop another clubs player" we have a good B team set up that is a pathway to the 1st team. Dean will keep you in the Premiership, it might be a close call, but he's Villa through and through and he won't let it happen, besides there are worse teams behind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 keepers is just way too many. Smith really need to decide who our 2nd choice keeper is and sell the other 2. I feel so bad for Kalinic and Nyland. They have to go somewhere else to get regular gametime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, villalad21 said: 4 keepers is just way too many. Smith really need to decide who our 2nd choice keeper is and sell the other 2. I feel so bad for Kalinic and Nyland. They have to go somewhere else to get regular gametime. I wake up in the middle of the night thinking the same thing too... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Nigel said: TBH if you got him for peanuts he would be well worth it. He has the raw ingredients. I had a look at a Preston forum and they seemed pretty surprised he wasn't being given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 1 hour ago, villalad21 said: 4 keepers is just way too many. Smith really need to decide who our 2nd choice keeper is and sell the other 2. I feel so bad for Kalinic and Nyland. They have to go somewhere else to get regular gametime. I agree 4 seniors seem excessive, but didn't Heaton's injury just prove we need 3 available? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Nothing against him but I hope we can sell Kalinic in January. He'll want minutes to try and get into the Croatia Euro squad and we can't have 4 senior keepers taking up places in the 25 man squad and costing money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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