JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 24 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: If we sold one of Ings or Watkins and had Archer as understudy, I wouldn’t complain Would you take if for example, we sold Ings, and it allowed us to spend 50 mill on an elite CM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Would you take if for example, we sold Ings, and it allowed us to spend 50 mill on an elite CM? I’d take it even more… we need a top CM more than Ings 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 hour ago, GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS said: He sure did. Mind you at least he connected with it properly, unlike Watkins' dummy for the goal Sums them both up perfectly (in the box). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 IMHO C.Archer had a decent game today Vs Brisbane Roar. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pembers Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) I think the difference between him and Watkins showed for the goal. Ball comes into the box, Watkins takes a swing and completely misses it, Archer kills it dead and buries it. I suppose you could say he had an extra second or so to see the ball coming but if a half chance came up in the box I'd rather have Archer trying to finish it than Watkins. Edited July 20, 2022 by Pembers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 27 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Taller than Tevez tho' (looks it anyway) yep, Tevez is 1.71 meters tall and archer is 1.81, i just googled it but seems accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: yep, Tevez is 1.71 meters tall and archer is 1.81, i just googled it but seems accurate For context to all VTers who don’t understand metric… Tommy Elphick is 1.01 Edited July 20, 2022 by CarryOnVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Call me all old fashioned but I am quite a fan of strikers who are natural finishers. Other than Tammy who was on loan with us, I can't remember a Villa striker who has looked like this for years. Maybe Yorke in the 90s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: yep, Tevez is 1.71 meters tall and archer is 1.81, i just googled it but seems accurate We’ve this chat. Archer is not 1.81. He’s shorter than this. How short nobody knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WakefieldVillan Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Call me all old fashioned but I am quite a fan of strikers who are natural finishers. Other than Tammy who was on loan with us, I can't remember a Villa striker who has looked like this for years. Maybe Yorke in the 90s. Without starting a Tammy discussion (but I am, apologies) - Tammy wasn't (isn't) a natural finisher either IMO. He also misses lots of chances. Dwight Yorke was though for sure. Archer took his goal well and his overall game was decent enough. His pace caused their defence problems and on another day he may have had five goals - 1) Just failing to connect to Buendia's ball in. 2) One where he probably should have laid Watkins in but took the defender on and shot over the bar. 3) One he dragged wide (should have scored that). 4) One that deflected wide and the one he scored. I think he's a more natural finisher than Watkins, but he's still quite raw. I wouldn't mind having him on the bench should we be chasing a game, but I would love if we sign another top quality striker and loan out Archer to continue his development. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, WakefieldVillan said: Without starting a Tammy discussion (but I am, apologies) - Tammy wasn't (isn't) a natural finisher either IMO. He also misses lots of chances. Dwight Yorke was though for sure. Archer took his goal well and his overall game was decent enough. His pace caused their defence problems and on another day he may have had five goals - 1) Just failing to connect to Buendia's ball in. 2) One where he probably should have laid Watkins in but took the defender on and shot over the bar. 3) One he dragged wide (should have scored that). 4) One that deflected wide and the one he scored. I think he's a more natural finisher than Watkins, but he's still quite raw. I wouldn't mind having him on the bench should we be chasing a game, but I would love if we sign another top quality striker and loan out Archer to continue his development. I don't want to start a Tammy talk either but if you look at this record in the round its about 1 goal in 2 games, and Ollie is 1 in 3. I might have a overgenerous view of Tammy as it was the Championship and not Premier League but he was class that year. Back to Archer he really does show a lot of promise and I think this could be his break out year. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted July 20, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2022 He’s going to the World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Anywhere to see the goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Anywhere to see the goal? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 I think he'll stay as as 3rd striker, he'll get plenty of game time with 5 subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 What a refreshing attitude compared to chuck. Told he will know if he's in 1st team squad or on loan at the end of the tour and says he is happy to do what villa see fit for his development. Would prefer playing for villa but happy to be loaned for the games and experience. Someone with common sense who knows if we think he's ready he will play the minutes for us, if not they will make sure he keeps progressing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: I don't want to start a Tammy talk either but if you look at this record in the round its about 1 goal in 2 games, and Ollie is 1 in 3. I might have a overgenerous view of Tammy as it was the Championship and not Premier League but he was class that year. Back to Archer he really does show a lot of promise and I think this could be his break out year. Tammy has a great goal record, but even Roma fans will tell you his finishing isn't the best. He still misses a lot, he just gets a shit ton of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: with 5 subs. Personally think the 5 sub rule is being overplayed a lot by some people. I think most managers won’t use 5 subs, it will only be a rarity and then only for a couple of minutes. As for Archer, fair ply for keeping his form and confidence high with another goal. He’s obviously worked so hard to improve the last few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Great finish. Terrible effort by ollie though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 When's the last time he played and didnt score? Must be last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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