Popular Post The Fun Factory Posted Friday at 11:08 Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:08 I am sad to see him go. He has been an excellent signing and has really developed as a player and as a person during his time at Villa. He still hasn't even reached his peak years yet and because of the regulation, they have been more or less forced to let him go. It is a bit of a shame my current lasting memory of Dougie is the penalty miss in the conference semi final which is still a bit gutting. Goals from corners, excellent tackles and passing and set pieces it has been a real pleasure seeing him play. Good luck in Italy. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted Friday at 11:11 Share Posted Friday at 11:11 10 minutes ago, sne said: I suggest you check this thread from Manchester Utd (Home) onwards. I’d also refer you to any player ratings site (e.g. whoscored.com). It’s a statistical fact that he was terrible for the latter part of the season …. And you have to remember that’s with the uplift from having penalties. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted Friday at 11:13 Share Posted Friday at 11:13 1 minute ago, DakotaVilla said: I suggest you check this thread from Manchester Utd (Home) onwards. I’d also refer you to any player ratings site (e.g. whoscored.com). It’s a statistical fact that he was terrible for the latter part of the season …. And you have to remember that’s with the uplift from having penalties. Er so was the rest of the team? And we had no midfield by the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted Friday at 11:16 Share Posted Friday at 11:16 1 minute ago, DakotaVilla said: I suggest you check this thread from Manchester Utd (Home) onwards. I’d also refer you to any player ratings site (e.g. whoscored.com). It’s a statistical fact that he was terrible for the latter part of the season …. And you have to remember that’s with the uplift from having penalties. Done all that thanks, also watched the games. Not many are saying his form didn't drop towards mid March and onwards. It's your ott take on it that's being laughed at. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted Friday at 11:16 Share Posted Friday at 11:16 Totally disagree. But that’s for another thread. Best of luck to Luiz - he served us well overall throughout his time here - but my opinion is that we won’t miss him once we get the true replacement in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post _AA_786 Posted Friday at 11:37 Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 11:37 20 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: Totally disagree. But that’s for another thread. Best of luck to Luiz - he served us well overall throughout his time here - but my opinion is that we won’t miss him once we get the true replacement in. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted Friday at 11:37 Share Posted Friday at 11:37 1 hour ago, Nigel said: The silver lining is the fact we won't have to hear commentators embarrassing themselves massacring his name! Yes, they'll have a much better go with Enzo Barrenechea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted Friday at 11:39 Share Posted Friday at 11:39 Loved him, he was a decent player on form, no doubt, but you can find his talent pretty easily around Europe, so won't be missed as much as if Watkins or Bailey were sold for example 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgl Posted Friday at 11:43 Share Posted Friday at 11:43 I’m genuinely sad to see him go. He struggled in the last half of the season but let’s face it, we were running on fumes and he wasn’t playing with the type of people who helped him excel earlier in the year. Despite that, his contribution to us has been over several years, and he’s given me many great memories of super goals and fantastic assists (as well as more goals from corners than I can easily remember). It’s been fantastic watching him mature into a world class talent and if his final act for us, is sorting out our annual finances then that’s not a bad way to head out. Cheers Dougie, Arrivederci! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted Friday at 11:49 Share Posted Friday at 11:49 (edited) 1 hour ago, DeadlyDirk said: Cue more debating on the comments section on the facebook post arguing over who is better Ronaldo or Messi.... " Let me tell you... Chelsea is the greatest Football club which ever existed " Those African bot types have started trawling on our OS posts as well, that's how you know we've made it Edited Friday at 11:54 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted Friday at 12:15 Share Posted Friday at 12:15 1 hour ago, Nigel said: The silver lining is the fact we won't have to hear commentators embarrassing themselves massacring his name! Dooog-lash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeadlyDirk Posted Friday at 12:39 Popular Post Share Posted Friday at 12:39 I'm just trying to reconcile with the fact that at some point over the next 24-48 hours I'm going to log into here and in the Villatalk sub-forum it'll say Moved:Douglas Luiz 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted Friday at 14:01 VT Supporter Share Posted Friday at 14:01 3 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: You’re talking absolute rubbish. His form went off a cliff the second Kamara was out. He was the worst player in the XI for the rest of the season after that and that was by a clear distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted Friday at 14:41 Share Posted Friday at 14:41 33 minutes ago, sidcow said: No, I have data. He was a complete and utter shadow of his former self at a point where his team needed him most. Also, it should be noted that despite the bargain basement type deal on offer this summer not a single other club other than Juve was reported to bid for him in the last month. Obviously, everyone else was looking at the data as well. Just to be clear I’m not saying he’s shit. He’s been very good for us overall. But he’s also very replaceable, hence why the club has done the deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted Friday at 14:44 Share Posted Friday at 14:44 2 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: No, I have data. He was a complete and utter shadow of his former self at a point where his team needed him most. Also, it should be noted that despite the bargain basement type deal on offer this summer not a single other club other than Juve was reported to bid for him in the last month. Obviously, everyone else was looking at the data as well. Just to be clear I’m not saying he’s shit. He’s been very good for us overall. But he’s also very replaceable, hence why the club has done the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted Friday at 15:21 Share Posted Friday at 15:21 3 hours ago, DakotaVilla said: I suggest you check this thread from Manchester Utd (Home) onwards. I’d also refer you to any player ratings site (e.g. whoscored.com). It’s a statistical fact that he was terrible for the latter part of the season …. And you have to remember that’s with the uplift from having penalties. Whoscored from Man U onwards has him our 2nd highest rated at Fulham, Forest home our 2nd highest rated with 2 goals, Luton average but got a lovely assist, Spurs he was actually our highest rated, West Ham and Wolves average but comparable to most. He didn't drop below 6.5 until Man City away (and plenty of players had gone below that before then), which is the point his game did start to markedly drop. But then thats when we hit a crazy fixture schedule and players like McGinn and Konsa suffered the same around then, co-incidently the players who'd played the most since Emery got here. And no uplift from penalties, because apart from the one against Olympiacos, we didn't get any in the latter part of the season. So no, its not a statistical fact he was terrible for the rest of the season from the second Kamara got injured, infact like most you've written about Luiz recently, it's complete bollocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted Friday at 15:45 Share Posted Friday at 15:45 8 minutes ago, andym said: Whoscored from Man U onwards has him our 2nd highest rated at Fulham, Forest home our 2nd highest rated with 2 goals, Luton average but got a lovely assist, Spurs he was actually our highest rated, West Ham and Wolves average but comparable to most. He didn't drop below 6.5 until Man City away (and plenty of players had gone below that before then), which is the point his game did start to markedly drop. But then thats when we hit a crazy fixture schedule and players like McGinn and Konsa suffered the same around then, co-incidently the players who'd played the most since Emery got here. And no uplift from penalties, because apart from the one against Olympiacos, we didn't get any in the latter part of the season. So no, it’s not a statistical fact he was terrible for the rest of the season from the second Kamara got injured, infact like most you've written about Luiz recently, it's complete bollocks. It’s complete and utter bollocks to say that McGinn and Konsa’s performances dropped to a similar level to Luiz. The validity of your post is summed up by “actually against spurs he was highest rated” he was 6.45 - shit. Luton 6.57 - shit. Now let’s do the rest: west ham away - 6.45 - shit Wolves home - 7.03- average Man city away - 6.12 - so shit. Brentford home - 6.45 - shit Chelsea home - 5.38 - embarrassingly shit Brighton away - 6.45 - shit Liverpool home - 6.09 embarrassingly shit Palace away - 5.70 - embarrassingly shit olympiakos home - 0.00 - worst performance ever seen by a Villa player in a semi final. Add on to that that during this run of poor form that Luiz was supposed to be a senior player which makes his MIA act especially poor. You’re entitled to your opinion but I’m extremely confident that come the end of next season we’ll be very happy with this deal and his replacement when he comes in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomC Posted Friday at 15:46 Share Posted Friday at 15:46 Still not happy about this move. To me, Doug & Kamara in the double pivot were the key to our success in the first half of the season. Someday maybe we'll know whether Doug wanted to leave or the club decided to move him. If the former, we had to get some value for him before his contract expired and I will have to accept it. If the latter, well, in Unai we trust, but even the best get decisions wrong from time to time, and this is one that I will be questioning until I see results from whomever replaces him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted Friday at 15:50 Share Posted Friday at 15:50 4 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: It’s complete and utter bollocks to say that McGinn and Konsa’s performances dropped to a similar level to Luiz. The validity of your post is summed up by “actually against spurs he was highest rated” he was 6.45 - shit. Luton 6.57 - shit. Now let’s do the rest: west ham away - 6.45 - shit Wolves home - 7.03- average Man city away - 6.12 - so shit. Brentford home - 6.45 - shit Chelsea home - 5.38 - embarrassingly shit Brighton away - 6.45 - shit Liverpool home - 6.09 embarrassingly shit Palace away - 5.70 - embarrassingly shit olympiakos home - 0.00 - worst performance ever seen by a Villa player in a semi final. Add on to that that during this run of poor form that Luiz was supposed to be a senior player which makes his MIA act especially poor. You’re entitled to your opinion but I’m extremely confident that come the end of next season we’ll be very happy with this deal and his replacement when he comes in. Just as a gentle counterpoint to that argument, it's worth noting that WhoScored ratings are a complete load of wank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted Friday at 15:55 Share Posted Friday at 15:55 I fully agree with your point KentVillan but they are equally wank for everyone. The only point I’m trying to make is Luiz is a very good player but not a great player, especially when the pressure gets turned up it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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