The_Steve Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 6 minutes ago, JPAngel said: I've come to the conclusion that some people are refusing to read what's actually happening with this deal in terms of how it's financed and what it means to our PSR efforts. There is that also. But any help understanding PSR on this matter would be helpful too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) 10 minutes ago, JPAngel said: I've come to the conclusion that some people are refusing to read what's actually happening with this deal in terms of how it's financed and what it means to our PSR efforts. 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: There is that also. But any help understanding PSR on this matter would be helpful too Likewise I also don’t understand it. The amount of financial guff on Twitter is mostly bullshit and impossible to follow so if you genuinely have knowledge of why this is good please do share Edited June 11 by Spoony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen_Evans Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: There is that also. But any help understanding PSR on this matter would be helpful too PSR is a delight isn’t it. Rules which mean you could spend £25m on a new player on a 5 year contract and sell a homegrown player for £5,000,001 and you’ve instantly made a £1 PSR “profit” in the current year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_82 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: Where is this please? He has to go if this is the case. Not actually seen a report though. There isnt a report but its been clear every window that if the opportunity had come up he would have gone, he really wanted Arsenal but it fell through. He has two years left andhas had an offer with him for a while but clearly he wants the move and new challenge Fairplay to him but just wish fans would read the room on that and not keep pointing fiingers on a set up that just got CL football for the first time in 40 years, they have a plan and know what they are doing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 Aside from PSR benefits at least Luiz is not joining a rival English team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Better than going to Arsenal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 minute ago, cb_82 said: just wish fans would read the room on that and not keep pointing fiingers on a set up that just got CL football for the first time in 40 years, they have a plan and know what they are doing I'll disagree with you here. We're selling because of FFP or whatever you wish to call it. It wasn't in our grand plan to sell Doug. Also, we're getting two players the other club are happy to lose and about a quarter of our player's value in cash. This could go horribly wrong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Just now, Tomaszk said: I'll disagree with you here. We're selling because of FFP or whatever you wish to call it. It wasn't in our grand plan to sell Doug. Also, we're getting two players the other club are happy to lose and about a quarter of our player's value in cash. This could go horribly wrong. This. I highly doubt Emery was in the market for these two players. I suspect it’s take or or leave it. This deal makes us a worse team. Yay for fairness in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy7211 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Maybe he's had enough of playing as the deep defensive midfielder when that's not his game and he's had enough. With Kamara out for a good while longer yet he may have had to play there for longer. When he played there for Smith, Gerrard, and Unai he was a shadow of the player we know he can be. If he's been offered a more forward thinking role at the biggest team in Italy I wouldn't blame him for fancying it. He's shown here that when he's played there he's a top midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I hate this. I hate everything about how the premier league is being run these days. It's "welcome to the top four, unlikely outside challenger! Now **** off again because that wasn't meant to happen." It **** stinks and it is completely transparent and they have absolutely no intention of introducing a system that is actually fair and disincentivizes the established club in favour of competition - while claiming to be doing exactly that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_82 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: I'll disagree with you here. We're selling because of FFP or whatever you wish to call it. It wasn't in our grand plan to sell Doug. Also, we're getting two players the other club are happy to lose and about a quarter of our player's value in cash. This could go horribly wrong. I mean by plan they will have known a big hitter had to go this summer and they would have known who was interested in who and im sure discussed internally what was the best move and how they would get round it so of course they would have had a plan As above read between the lines....Player wants to go...no prem teams are in for him...players coming in will not have been specifically targeted but will meet the profile that we are looking for to fit certain roles in the squad....we meet PSR KTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Have I got this right from PSR perspective? We are selling Luiz for £50m at pretty much all profit, which gives us £200m to spend on players with 4 year contracts. Then we are buying McKennie for £25m - PSR cost of £6.25m per year. And the other dude at £8m - PSR cost of £2m per year. Leaves us with a shit-load we could still spend this summer if we wanted to go all out. But obviously need to leave some of that £ leeway for the next 3 years as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 7 minutes ago, Spoony said: This. I highly doubt Emery was in the market for these two players. I suspect it’s take or or leave it. This deal makes us a worse team. Yay for fairness in football. If we didn’t want the players, we wouldn’t sign them. Further, a good fee means we can spend relatively large again in the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Just now, ender4 said: Have I got this right from PSR perspective? We are selling Luiz for £50m at pretty much all profit, which gives us £200m to spend on players with 4 year contracts. Then we are buying McKennie for £25m - PSR cost of £6.25m per year. And the other dude at £8m - PSR cost of £2m per year. Leaves us with a shit-load we could still spend this summer if we wanted to go all out. But obviously need to leave some of that £ leeway for the next 3 years as well. Basically, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leeroy Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 If I were Unai I'd sack Monchi off given this poor deal for Luiz. Did terrible business at Roma too by all accounts. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Bloody hell gutted about this. I love Dougie. Weston **** McKennie you know deary me.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duke313 Posted June 11 Popular Post Share Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Leeroy said: If I were Unai I'd sack Monchi off given this poor deal for Luiz. Did terrible business at Roma too by all accounts. If I were you, I’d go lay down for a while and log of social media 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 3 minutes ago, Leeroy said: If I were Unai I'd sack Monchi off given this poor deal for Luiz. Did terrible business at Roma too by all accounts. Have you considered Unai maybe happy with this deal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Would prefer it if he stayed, but if it’s a choice between Luiz and Martinez, Watkins or even Pau, I think selling Luiz hurts us the least. I don’t think I would sell Bailey over Luiz either. Or Konsa. Our other saleable assets are probably Kamara and Ramsey, both have been injured so won’t generate much income. In some games he does disappear, and there have been occasions where he is passive and other teams can take control from us (think Man Utd away and Bournemouth at home). But he is not the only one in our team that can be passive. I also think that Emery has probably seen us play without him a few times with McGinn and Youri as the double pivot, and he has seen that they can cope. And we may need a bit more aggression, speed and pressing in the middle and through the whole team, and maybe the players coming in will add that. Sorry to see him go, but he’s not irreplaceable where we are right now. And we have to remember that his value will start falling as soon as the season starts because he only has 2 years left on his contract. Could be a very clever bit of business in terms of adding depth when you consider that Barkley will be there as well. Luiz out and 3 players in, with a bit a cash left over as well, feels like a good move, especially when one has plenty of experience at Juve and in the champions league. Hopefully the two players coming in make a difference to the squad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Actually horrific business. First time I've said that in a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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