Popular Post OhioVilla Posted December 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 16, 2022 9 hours ago, duke313 said: No question as to who the first choice midfielders should be, Kamara and Luiz. How did Gerrard not see this? Could see it from day one, and I'm a stupid American who calls it soccer. Sometimes, and it's something that happens in a lot of different sports, great players make awful coaches/managers. They just expect everyone to be like them and act accordingly. To be fair, he knew what he had in Kamara, but his insistence on McGinn over Luiz was just an outright mistake and valuing work rate over quality, I guess. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Probably because Luiz wouldn’t sign a new contract. That definitely didn’t help, but even before and after the contract issues it never felt like Dougie was one of Gerrard’s first picks. Nakamba got in ahead of him initially, remember. I just think Gerrard preferred a midfield of huff and puff athletes rather than technical players who can control the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, KentVillan said: That definitely didn’t help, but even before and after the contract issues it never felt like Dougie was one of Gerrard’s first picks. Nakamba got in ahead of him initially, remember. I just think Gerrard preferred a midfield of huff and puff athletes rather than technical players who can control the game. Wasn't Douglas injured then? I remember him having a couple of good games as an 8 anyway, but he never played him there regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Probably because Luiz wouldn’t sign a new contract. Kamara didnt sign a contract at Marseille and I think he played over 30 games last season We were hardly in a position to be leaving talented players out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 They have clicked. Kamara and Luiz are proper players that link brilliantly together. Its made Luiz better instantly by having a partner who is comfy in possession. But the pair of them really do hate shooting . One of them needs to start smashing the ball from time to time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Kamara didnt sign a contract at Marseille and I think he played over 30 games last season We were hardly in a position to be leaving talented players out I didn’t say it was the right decision. Just probably the reason why he didn’t play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 20 hours ago, MWARLEY2 said: They have clicked. Kamara and Luiz are proper players that link brilliantly together. Its made Luiz better instantly by having a partner who is comfy in possession. But the pair of them really do hate shooting . One of them needs to start smashing the ball from time to time. Enter Ramsey. He's the ball striker of the three. Although I seem to remember Dougie scoring a couple crackers from outside the box in his first season with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I think Dougie has come on leaps and Bounds, and much better since Kamara joining us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 18:50, KentVillan said: That definitely didn’t help, but even before and after the contract issues it never felt like Dougie was one of Gerrard’s first picks. Nakamba got in ahead of him initially, remember. I just think Gerrard preferred a midfield of huff and puff athletes rather than technical players who can control the game. problem is, to progress, you need players with both. The players, who control games, have many attributes, and do them well. Traditionally, we have had limited players, we need to sign more, complete players, who offer a solution to more aspects of the game.....If you don't do this, you end up signing players with different skill sets, but just as limited and the outcome is status quo. We have been doing this for a long time, hence no overall improvement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, TRO said: problem is, to progress, you need players with both. The players, who control games, have many attributes, and do them well. Traditionally, we have had limited players, we need to sign more, complete players, who offer a solution to more aspects of the game.....If you don't do this, you end up signing players with different skill sets, but just as limited and the outcome is status quo. We have been doing this for a long time, hence no overall improvement. Definitely - although I'd say in Dougie's case, as he gets older, he is starting to look stronger and more aggressive. Also, I think now Unai is here, we'll start to see a lot of improvement. Some of our players need replacing, but a few of them (Dougie being one) just weren't being utilised effectively. IMO he's one of the players (alongside Kamara) who we should be looking to hang on to for several more years as a regular starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 9 hours ago, KentVillan said: Definitely - although I'd say in Dougie's case, as he gets older, he is starting to look stronger and more aggressive. Also, I think now Unai is here, we'll start to see a lot of improvement. Some of our players need replacing, but a few of them (Dougie being one) just weren't being utilised effectively. IMO he's one of the players (alongside Kamara) who we should be looking to hang on to for several more years as a regular starter. Initially I had reservations about Dougie, now I think he is one of our best players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 16/12/2022 at 23:23, MWARLEY2 said: They have clicked. Kamara and Luiz are proper players that link brilliantly together. Its made Luiz better instantly by having a partner who is comfy in possession. But the pair of them really do hate shooting . One of them needs to start smashing the ball from time to time. I don’t think Luiz hates it, it’s just that playing as a DM made it harder for him to do so, then we had tough games since UE came. I think we’ll start see him trying slowly. Still two tough games coming up followed by a derby. Our easy fixture was lost by Gerrard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 5 hours ago, abdulaziz1 said: I don’t think Luiz hates it, it’s just that playing as a DM made it harder for him to do so, then we had tough games since UE came. I think we’ll start see him trying slowly. Still two tough games coming up followed by a derby. Our easy fixture was lost by Gerrard. I worried at the time that we were wasting our easier fixtures with Gerrard in charge. We have played all the 3 promoted sides away and won none of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messi11 Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 Farewell Douglas Luiz. Thankyou for the memories. Enjoy Vasco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, messi11 said: Farewell Douglas Luiz. Thankyou for the memories. Enjoy Vasco Apparently it's a colloquial way of saying "fans", ie, don't worry fans, we're on our way back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 1 hour ago, StanBalaban said: Apparently it's a colloquial way of saying "fans", ie, don't worry fans, we're on our way back. They both did play for Vasco though so could easily confuse people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Cmon Doug ffs , playing like he’s full of Christmas piss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 He’s playing like that drugged up lion he paraded about Dubai with 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Said it countless times here, not only does he lose the ball, HE DOESN’T CARE that he loses it which is why this is a trait of his every few games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted December 26, 2022 Share Posted December 26, 2022 Dendoncker is better with Kaamara for me! Cash in on Luiz in January imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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