omariqy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 See the second tweet in that thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Sorry if it has been mentioned/suggested already, but is it not a case of we cannot make the signing announcement official until his work permit is sorted and cleared. These things usually take a while to go through so it could be another week or so before we hear anything if it is solely surrounding this WP issue. I think it will all be fine. We announced Wesley before the work permit was sorted, however it might be that we had no doubt about that work permit so were confident enough to announce it. Possibly the douglas Luiz situation isn't so straight forward, or maybe he hasn't signed on the dotted line yet?, or something else? But in answer to your question, no you don't need to wait until the work permit is sorted. Edited July 23, 2019 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 This is the one I want completed ASAP. The dm role is vital to how we play. The quicker he is integrated within the squad the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 that trainer of his couldn't hold his own water futperformance itk! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Made In Aston said: Proper stalker aren't you?! 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: I didn't realise than man city have spent a fortune on a new dm this summer. Surely that shows this luiz signing is not just a glorified loan. They would not necessarily buy him back to use him, might also buy him back just to sell him on at a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: They would not necessarily buy him back to use him, might also buy him back just to sell him on at a profit. Would he agree to that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent_Bob Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, MaVilla said: We announced Wesley before the work permit was sorted, however it might be that we had no doubt about that work permit so were confident enough to announce it. Possibly the douglas Luiz situation isn't so straight forward, or maybe he hasn't signed on the dotted line yet?, or something else? But in answer to your question, no you don't need to wait until the work permit is sorted. City probably won’t sell to us if he can’t get a WP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Would he agree to that though? Don't know how much of a choice he will have. Also I doubt they would tell him before the sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, Silent_Bob said: City probably won’t sell to us if he can’t get a WP. well, we wouldnt want him either if he cant get a WP..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 So should all be wrapped up by Monday. Gets a run out in Germany at least the following week, hopefully his fitness will be fine and he'll go straight into the XI for Tottenham and have a debut as good as Stiliyans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Nigel said: Don't know how much of a choice he will have. Also I doubt they would tell him before the sale. I don't know why people keep saying this. You can't force someone to put pen to paper and sign for another club - just see Real Madrid wanting rid of Bale. I also don't think he could have signed a pre-agreement with Man City to get around this as there is no fixed date for him to return which I'm pretty sure would be needed for a valid contract. If Man City did want to buy him back to sell on he would also be well within his rights to accept the transfer back to Man City then refuse to move on to whatever club that want to buy him. The only thing that likely stops any of this happening is an 'understanding' and people sticking to their word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: So should all be wrapped up by Monday. Gets a run out in Germany at least the following week, hopefully his fitness will be fine and he'll go straight into the XI for Tottenham and have a debut as good as Stiliyans If Villa is the saviour of Luiz's football career and he starts loving it here like many a PLAYER who have joined us, then I can't see Man city being able to make him move back if he doesn't want to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted July 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2019 Let’s sign him before we worry about him leaving. 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Feet Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: They would not necessarily buy him back to use him, might also buy him back just to sell him on at a profit. So we could potentially buy him now, Man City buy him back and then sell him back to us again for a more than they brought him back for? Lol Edited July 23, 2019 by Hobbit Feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 ^^^ also known as paying to have the release clause removed (fairly common practise). And so long as it's not straight away, a handy work around FFP for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 23, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: I didn't realise than man city have spent a fortune on a new dm this summer. Surely that shows this luiz signing is not just a glorified loan. Makes sense. It was probably the only position they weren’t really strong in. When Fernandinho wasn’t playing they looked a different team last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 23, 2019 Moderator Share Posted July 23, 2019 I completely get why these negotiations are dragging on. If all the sub-plots are true about City using us as a way of getting a work permit for him, and adding in a buyback clause, then it makes total sense for Villa to be making damn sure we're not a glorified mule in the whole saga. If it's worth doing, then it's worth doing right, and I'd much rather wait and have it done to our satisfaction. It's kind of weird having competent professionals in charge. I'm not used to this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Let’s sign him before we worry about him leaving. Only on VT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I think it's possible the club may have made a small error in announcing Wesley as early as they did and with it pending work permit clearance. Perhaps this time they're waiting until it's 100% done before making any formal announcement.......maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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