ferguson1 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 #findengels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Bump. Where the bollocks is he. I want answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Weird that nobody has a clue on this. Engels should be ahead of Chester. Did he do something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 My money's on The Plough or Julie B's basement. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spoony said: Bump. Where the bollocks is he. I want answers. Hause to Mings to Konsa (to Mings) goal. Engels who? Edited January 21, 2020 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 He's probably just injured, club don't seem to be very good at updating on that kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I think he is still in Shane Long’s pocket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, useless said: He's probably just injured, club don't seem to be very good at updating on that kind of thing. Yeah but it's strange media haven't asked about it, and he hasn't been mentioned by Deano at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Villarocker said: My money's on The Plough or Julie B's basement. I'm in Julie B's basement, it's cold and wet (her basement is too), but no sign of Engels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Smith confirmed he's missing out due to selection choices, nothing else. Surprised tbh. He's better than Chester for me. Doesn't bode well for his future that a chap we'll probably be releasing is ahead of him. I would guess he'll play v Leicester with Mings protected...? It's a big game but we're in the position now I can't see us getting a league point if Mings isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 22, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted January 22, 2020 my mate, who has been incredibly unreliable with info in the past, says he heard of a bust up with smith + terry. while normally i wouldn't believe a word he says, it would explain his absence 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitzlsperger_12 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 It's a weird one, he looked like a great signing and then poof, he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I don’t agree with freezing players out. It’s the job of the manager to deal with issues and move on. He doesn’t come across as a real bad egg so Dean needs to deal with whatever has happened and move on. He is a valuable asset whose value will just decrease by the week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praisedmambo Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, M_Afro said: I don’t agree with freezing players out. It’s the job of the manager to deal with issues and move on. He doesn’t come across as a real bad egg so Dean needs to deal with whatever has happened and move on. He is a valuable asset whose value will just decrease by the week. You don't know there's been an issue and Chester is a decent CB too. Only one of them makes the bench. Up to a few weeks ago was Hause frozen out or did he just not make the bench? Was Targett frozen out at the start of the season or did he just not make the bench? Is Jota frozen out or is he just not making the bench? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elton Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 There is no conspiracy here. Frankly I didn’t see any stand out performances early in the season that he is some incredible CB. He looked OK but nothing more, we were conceding for fun when he was playing. He played against Fulham so hasn’t been frozen out. Despite still conceding too many the defence doesn’t seem as vulnerable (Man C apart) with the new structure/personnel. Chester has also played in a back 3 before regularly and as club captain seems a reasonable selection as a sub over Engels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 To me it's obvious. Engels is a good passer and positionally excellent, but he is slow and has the turning circle of a bus. All opponents need to do is get a quick player to run at him. He's been exposed! A shame as I like him. His distribution is the best of our centre backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, praisedmambo said: You don't know there's been an issue and Chester is a decent CB too. Only one of them makes the bench. Up to a few weeks ago was Hause frozen out or did he just not make the bench? Was Targett frozen out at the start of the season or did he just not make the bench? Is Jota frozen out or is he just not making the bench? He is better than all other CB’s excluding Mings. He is way better than Chester. Target was not fit so didn’t play. Jota is not good enough. Neither of those apply to Engels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Think he'd do well in the back 3, wouldn't expose the lack of space so much (indeed it wasn't a huge problem while Mings was fit before xmas). Get the feeling DS has lost confidence in him since the Southampton game. Hopefully we'll see him v some of the better attacks as always feels in those games Konsa and Hause are walking errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 In France with Villareport at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, useless said: In France with Villareport at the moment... Probably nicer than being in Julie B’s basement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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