GingerCollins29 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Even though i think traore is a better attscking outlet than trez, i wouldnt trust him to do the same legeork that trez does. I think traore will start vs soton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Even though i think traore is a better attscking outlet than trez, i wouldnt trust him to do the same legeork that trez does. I think traore will start vs soton Although i don't agree with it i can't really blame Dean for doing it. Trez had a real stinker. But so did the whole team I just get the feeling Trez is the new scapegoat Edited October 24, 2020 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Just now, villalad21 said: Although i don't agree with it i can't really blame Dean for doing it. Trez had a real stinker. But so did the whole team Yeh. I would start trez. I just think dean will mix it up. Has to really as we were shite to a man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 (edited) I think trez was one of the few players to come out of the game with any credit. I felt deflated when Traore came on for him, but totally understood it. What else did we have to lose. But Traore offered nothing in either direction, compared with Trez who at least helped defensively. Not a great game by any stretch, but no more deserving of criticism than anyone else on the pitch Edited October 24, 2020 by MrBlack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooJung Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 9 hours ago, villalad21 said: Although i don't agree with it i can't really blame Dean for doing it. Trez had a real stinker. But so did the whole team I just get the feeling Trez is the new scapegoat He isn't just the scapegoat, he's arguably the least talented footballer to get regular starts and he's got good competition on the bench (unlike targett, for example) so it's quite understandable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I like Trez for his hardwork and occasional moments of good football but on the whole he is the kind of player that will eventually not be making the first 11 and probably not even the squad. He will eventually be replaced by Traore. In the mean time he still has a big part to play in the season. The lack of quality on our bench is worrying. Even with the players Leeds had out injured their bench looked stronger than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 3 hours ago, WooJung said: He isn't just the scapegoat, he's arguably the least talented footballer to get regular starts and he's got good competition on the bench (unlike targett, for example) so it's quite understandable We won 4 games in a row with Trez in the team and he was an important part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 13 hours ago, MrBlack said: I think trez was one of the few players to come out of the game with any credit. I felt deflated when Traore came on for him, but totally understood it. What else did we have to lose. But Traore offered nothing in either direction, compared with Trez who at least helped defensively. Not a great game by any stretch, but no more deserving of criticism than anyone else on the pitch But he really didn't help defensively in that game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 In my view, Trez would make a bigger impact coming off the bench, than Troare. Troare seems more like the type who needs to grow into the game with the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I've been impressed with Trez this season, but it feels odd that he is better without the ball than with the ball. Maybe an impact sub makes more sense, but I think Dean would have to set the team up differently to accommodate Traore, which he needs to try sooner of later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Traore has been here long enough now and cost a lot of money. It’s about time the club backed their 17m player. Trezeguet needs to be benched because he’s rubbish. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 El Ghazi has never had a performance as bad as he did on Friday night. He has looked a lot sharper, quicker and stronger this season but that performance was a few steps backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 25/10/2020 at 12:50, DCJonah said: But he really didn't help defensively in that game. No he didn't. I think folk get confused sometimes between the specific game and the player in General. Tez has been working hard......but he didn't in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 (edited) I didn't see the 3rd goal as was pissed off by then but neither of first two were Trez fault. 1st Martinez spill not covered and 2nd Barkley gave it away and they played straight through middle. I think someone had it right saying Cash was exposed because Watkins and Trez were playing high press and Grealish wasn't so they used space on their right and switched to left to get in behind Trez. It just reeks of people having reached the conclusion in advance Edited October 27, 2020 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: I didn't see the 3rd goal as was pissed off by then but neither of first two were Trez fault. 1st Martinez spill not covered and 2nd Barkley gave it away and they played straight through middle. I think someone had it right saying Cash was exposed because Watkins and Trez were playing high press and Grealish wasn't so they used space on their right and switched to left to get in behind Trez. It just reeks of people having reached the conclusion in advance Disagree, first one was massively down to trez. He actually starts tracking rodrigo and then just stops. Rodrigo sprints and then he can't get close and it allows rodrigo to get a decent shot on goal. I blame trez for the first one more than any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Don't really see the point in blaming him for individual goals. He's just not a Premier League footballer. Never has been, and never will be. No amount of running around is going to change that. I'd rather see Ramsey on the wing if we're playing players because they run about a lot. We've signed a 17m pound winger from a team that got to the CL final last year. He needs to start playing. He's been here long enough now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 41 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Disagree, first one was massively down to trez. He actually starts tracking rodrigo and then just stops. Rodrigo sprints and then he can't get close and it allows rodrigo to get a decent shot on goal. I blame trez for the first one more than any other player. I will rewatch the build up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Don't really see the point in blaming him for individual goals. He's just not a Premier League footballer. Never has been, and never will be. No amount of running around is going to change that. I'd rather see Ramsey on the wing if we're playing players because they run about a lot. We've signed a 17m pound winger from a team that got to the CL final last year. He needs to start playing. He's been here long enough now. Honestly reckon we'd been worse off the way Leeds play with Traore on instead. Would've been same situation with Grealish not playing the high line so would've got in behind whoever was RW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, Kiwivillan said: Honestly reckon we'd been worse off the way Leeds play with Traore on instead. Would've been same situation with Grealish not playing the high line so would've got in behind whoever was RW Shouldn't have signed Traore then if he can't play against teams that run around a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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