Demitri_C Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Laughable Chimp said: Wonder how many people said that abuot Aleksandar Tonev He looks like like tonev most games but with a weaker shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: He looks like like tonev most games but with a weaker shot You obviously don’t remember how poor Tonev was. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 @Villan4Life I need your view on this one I’m seeing comparisons to Tonev and I’m amazed by this. I see a good player that has settled poorly. What do you think mate? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KenjiOgiwara Posted November 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2019 Nothing new here. People always exaggerate how good or bad players are. He's doing fine. Lots of potential. We just need a striker to come in an show Wesley how offball movement and finishing is done, win a few matches, climb a bit on the table and the usual whine will disappear. Both Wes and Trez will need time, but unfortunately we're not in a position where we can rotate and bench Wes. Yet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 I fail to see 'lots of potential' and have a lot of reservations about his ability to deliver quality into the box anywhere consistently enough but he's streets ahead of the likes of Tonev. So far I just see him as useful, decent pace, puts in a good shift, seemingly has a bit of an eye for goal but lets him self down too often when he gets the ball near the edge of the box. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 14, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I fail to see 'lots of potential' and have a lot of reservations about his ability to deliver quality into the box anywhere consistently enough but he's streets ahead of the likes of Tonev. So far I just see him as useful, decent pace, puts in a good shift, seemingly has a bit of an eye for goal but lets him self down too often when he gets the ball near the edge of the box. Thankfully, composure can be both taught and learned (see: Raheem Sterling). He will only get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I fail to see 'lots of potential' and have a lot of reservations about his ability to deliver quality into the box anywhere consistently enough but he's streets ahead of the likes of Tonev. So far I just see him as useful, decent pace, puts in a good shift, seemingly has a bit of an eye for goal but lets him self down too often when he gets the ball near the edge of the box. So if he does get better in the final third and improve his decision making, he'll be a lot better, right? Isn't that potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, lexicon said: So if he does get better in the final third and improve his decision making, he'll be a lot better, right? Isn't that potential? It's not clear to me that he will improve those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: It's not clear to me that he will improve those things. Potential means that he could and might, rather than will, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, lexicon said: Potential means that he could and might, rather than will, surely? I think that's a simplistic way of thinking about it. In sports it's more of a latent thing that varies across individual. I personally don't think Trezeguet's potential is that high, some players just aren't that good and don't improve much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 2 hours ago, ozvillafan said: Thankfully, composure can be both taught and learned (see: Raheem Sterling). He will only get better. Indeed, I actually never saw the hype in Sterling early days if I'm honest, but look at him now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I fail to see 'lots of potential' and have a lot of reservations about his ability to deliver quality into the box anywhere consistently enough but he's streets ahead of the likes of Tonev. So far I just see him as useful, decent pace, puts in a good shift, seemingly has a bit of an eye for goal but lets him self down too often when he gets the ball near the edge of the box. Fair assessment. I’m glad you mentioned the bold part. Hope we can all put that ridiculous comparison to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Works hard, even wins more than his fair share of headers. Smacked the post, had a goal disallowed. But for some reason I just don’t feel like he’s going to do anything when he’s got the ball. it doesn’t make any sense, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Don't understand all the hate for him, let's not forget it took Ghazi 6 odd months to get up to speed in the championship, this guy is having to get up to speed in the Premiership. He looks like he has quality, for me looks like he just needs time. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 He did well, great strike which hit the bar, great ball in for Grealish who should have scored. But for me El Ghazi is superior. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 He was decent today. Seems to rush everything though. His body moves too fast for his brain, or vice versa, I can't tell yet. El Ghazi is better than him at the moment. Everything is silky smooth and purposeful for him. When Trezeguet is on the ball, I can't tell what he's going to do next and sometimes I don't think he can either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 With a name like Trezeguet he is surely a viable option as a striker. Better movement in the box than Wes anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 (edited) Another one of those games for Trez where he's a hard worker, but ultimately doesn't contrubute a whole lot. He does seem to showcasing that he has a crackign shot more often though. To be frank, I don't think he has that much of a footballing brain. Everything is so direct and simple with him and at this level you can't do that unless you have insane levels of pace. There was no guile or trickery with him a lot of the time, he's just a runner who runs with balls and at balls and hopes for the best. Can't ever expect him to beat his man unless he gets a bit lucky. El Ghazi is like the opposite of him bigger, stronger than Trez and around similarly fast, better finisher, more guile, more precision and trickery but lacks the hard work that Trez has and as a result is more inconsistent than him. But still, and on form El Ghazi is vastly superior to what I've seen from the best of Trez. Edited December 1, 2019 by Laughable Chimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I think he did quite well given that he was often isolated with a couple of defenders on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 1, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2019 I just don't see it with Trez. Works hard, but is pretty awful as soon as the ball is at his feet. Really want him to do well, but at 25 I feel there's only so much development that can be achieved with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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