tinker Posted July 7 VT Supporter Share Posted July 7 20 minutes ago, switters said: nah it was clearly an error. Southgate is not going to take off the big moments guy who got the last min equaliser in last round when we're 1-0 down and need a late equaliser. Konsa was sacrificed to get additional attacker on the pitch, nothing more. Nah not for me, Watch it again, I think he bottled it. Your giving Southgate to much respect, him and his side kick Holland have a strange logic when it comes to tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 Ok, I love Konsa, I know many non Villa fans that love Konsa, I don't think I know anyone that has anything bad to say about him, but he seems to be in that strange purgatory stage where he's not being linked with other clubs (£500m if another club is reading), and he's not quite 'regular' International level. Genuine Q - why do people think that is? What would have to change in his game to be considered 'elite' as opposed to 'Champions League'...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeypuzzle Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) Nothing. Give us a couple of good seasons with Champion's League football and the media will be kissing up to us just like they do to Spurs and co. Edited July 7 by Monkeypuzzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 1 hour ago, T-Dog said: Ok, I love Konsa, I know many non Villa fans that love Konsa, I don't think I know anyone that has anything bad to say about him, but he seems to be in that strange purgatory stage where he's not being linked with other clubs (£500m if another club is reading), and he's not quite 'regular' International level. Genuine Q - why do people think that is? What would have to change in his game to be considered 'elite' as opposed to 'Champions League'...? He’s a top player, but the things why he’s not classed as elite by the media: a) He’s not vocal enough, this season is the first where he hasn’t had that commanding leader next to him. It’s been said in the past the he needed that organiser there. He did step up a bit this yr, but could still do more. b) Aerially he can switch off and isn’t as dominant as others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lunarsea Posted July 7 Popular Post Share Posted July 7 6 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: b) Aerially he can switch off and isn’t as dominant as others. So, if he was better aerially, he'd get a better reception? 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 20 minutes ago, Lunarsea said: So, if he was better aerially, he'd get a better reception? Yes, the English media love seeing “blood and thunder” if they could show highlights of him heading everything away and be as classy as he is on the deck then he’d get more exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 (edited) 32 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: He’s a top player, but the things why he’s not classed as elite by the media: a) He’s not vocal enough, this season is the first where he hasn’t had that commanding leader next to him. It’s been said in the past the he needed that organiser there. He did step up a bit this yr, but could still do more. b) Aerially he can switch off and isn’t as dominant as others. To be fair these are your opinions and not the media. I respect your opinion but I think it’s more to do with playing for Villa why he isn’t classed as elite. The same media have lauded him today, it’s like they have actually watched him play. Edited July 7 by WHY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, T-Dog said: Ok, I love Konsa, I know many non Villa fans that love Konsa, I don't think I know anyone that has anything bad to say about him, but he seems to be in that strange purgatory stage where he's not being linked with other clubs (£500m if another club is reading), and he's not quite 'regular' International level. Genuine Q - why do people think that is? What would have to change in his game to be considered 'elite' as opposed to 'Champions League'...? Don't really see what's 'purgatory' about where he is, he's been on a steady upward path. He's went from L1 to Championship to rotation to key starter for a Premier League club who've gone from lower-midtable to competing for top 4. As a player has improved year by year, just had first experience of playing in Europe, will be Champions League next season, just broken into international squad this year. Reaching peak age for defender. If he keeps the progression, next year he might nail down an England squad place and get more chances. We don't know if other clubs have enquired and been told to go away or quoted a price to scare them off. He's got long contract with us and the market in terms of teams who'd be willing to pay top £ to buy an English CB from us is small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 2 hours ago, T-Dog said: Ok, I love Konsa, I know many non Villa fans that love Konsa, I don't think I know anyone that has anything bad to say about him, but he seems to be in that strange purgatory stage where he's not being linked with other clubs (£500m if another club is reading), and he's not quite 'regular' International level. Genuine Q - why do people think that is? What would have to change in his game to be considered 'elite' as opposed to 'Champions League'...? If he’s happy and settled at Villa and his agent knows that, we’re not really going to see links to other clubs. Plus, he’d be really really really expensive. Even more so now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 8 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8 3 hours ago, switters said: Genuine Q - why do people think that is? What would have to change in his game to be considered 'elite' as opposed to 'Champions League'...? London media anti-Midlands bias (don't care about Villa) plus he's a defender (always get less attention) plus he doesn't promote himself constantly like some other players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The chance in second half, where Embolo gets a header towards goal but Konsa is tight to him making it impossible to get any kind of decent connection. For me that's peak Konsa, he doesn't have to win the ball just make it unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 8 VT Supporter Share Posted July 8 11 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: Yes, the English media love seeing “blood and thunder” if they could show highlights of him heading everything away and be as classy as he is on the deck then he’d get more exposure. He needs a head wound with a bandage on it with blood seeping out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisvilla4 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Out of the starting 11. Shame, he was fantastic last game. Rest up for the final Ezri! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Best player on the pitch last game... Oh well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted July 10 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10 45 minutes ago, chrisvilla4 said: Out of the starting 11. Shame, he was fantastic last game. Rest up for the final Ezri! Rest up for Villa Ezri! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders129 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Southgate is so inflexible. He picks his XI before the tournament based on a set of stats and then will never deviate irrespective of form or what is actually happening in front of his face. There’s zero intuition. Case in point Grealish in Euro 2020. Konsa was out star defender in the last game. He should be in that back three for Walker. Just one of the many reasons Southgate will never get us over the line in the key moment. You can’t just disregard form and chemistry. It’s a glaring hole in his approach and will never change 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 minutes ago, rodders129 said: Southgate is so inflexible. He picks his XI before the tournament based on a set of stats and then will never deviate irrespective of form or what is actually happening in front of his face. There’s zero intuition. Case in point Grealish in Euro 2020. Konsa was out star defender in the last game. He should be in that back three for Walker. Just one of the many reasons Southgate will never get us over the line in the key moment. You can’t just disregard form and chemistry. It’s a glaring hole in his approach and will never change He should definitely be starting in place of Walker. It's too late to bring him on to shore things up when we're losing. Southgate on a very rare occasion going with the wrong option and it actually being slightly more attacking than the right one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Could make an argument about him starting ahead of any of those defenders to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strog Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 I think we all knew Ezri would get dropped, at least he can rest up now for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 11 VT Supporter Share Posted July 11 Against the Swiss, Ezri had Embolo totally in his pocket. It was only when Ez went off that Embolo started to get some joy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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